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07-16-2014, 06:50 PM | #1 | |
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What would they do?
So, while Isildur was fighting his final battle he has a conversation with his son Elendur in which he says referring to the Ring:
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07-16-2014, 07:16 PM | #2 | |
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The One corrupts. Look what it did to Saruman and he did not even lay eyes on it. By the time of the War of the Ring it appears that Galadriel at least had accepted that it had to be destroyed even if doing so resulted in the possible breaking of the power of the Three. I do not think they were quite sure if the Three would lose their powers had the One been destroyed. We know that two of the three keepers of the Three would have it destroyed at least at that moment when Sauron was cast down.
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07-17-2014, 07:45 AM | #3 |
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The Ring with Galadriel would have been interesting. Eventually might
have been a rather nasty family spat between Galadriel and Celeborn over the Ring. Rather tempting for them...Sauron defeated and Middle Earth way more open to molding and shaping by elves than when Morgoth dominated Beleriand. Centuries in which there would be relatively weak opposition (except perhaps by dwarves and weakened Arnor and Gondor).
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07-17-2014, 08:00 AM | #4 |
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We have to consider that the keepers did not use their Rings until Sauron was cast down. Therefore they would not have any fear about works done with the Three - there simply were no such works at that time.
I share the doubts about Galadriel, but I think that anybody should be doubted in that situation. It is easy to advice Isildur to destrory the One Ring. But it is much harder to do it yourself. I think Tolkien made clear in his letters that no body could have willingly destroyed the Ring out of his free will. Respctfully Findegil |
07-17-2014, 08:08 AM | #5 | |
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If the Keepers of the Three had let some time pass, allowing Sauron's influence to lessen, it might have been more of a possibility to gather the will to destroy the Ring, but then it would have been able to gnaw at the reason of whomever guarded it over time. So maybe it was for the best after all that the Ring was lost to the Wise after Isildur's fall.
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As I think she would have been dicey if Isildur had survived the Gladden Fields and surrendered the Ring to Elrond afterwards. I see her as being the most likely to want to try to keep the Ring. I think Elrond would have attempted to send the Ring back to Mount Doom as he indeed did later on. But this brings us back to the conundrum of the Bearer of the Ring being in long possession of the Ring going back to Mount Doom. I don't think anybody who had the Ring in their possession for an extended period would have been able to destroy it. It is a paradox that one who has just acquired the Ring might be the most likely to be able to destroy it, but the only time that happened with a possibility of immediate destruction the power of Sauron was still quite strong and instantly corrupted Isildur's mind. It is also an interesting question of if Isildur survived and went to Rivendell if he could have surrendered the Ring as was his intention. Only Bilbo was ever able to do that.
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07-17-2014, 09:34 AM | #8 | |
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Small off-topic: The speculation about Galadriel makes me curious, where was she during the Last Alliance and at Sauron's defeat? Anyone know?
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