Born of hope

[Erendis]

6 months after the filming of "The hunt for Gollum",the new fan-made film "Born of hope" is at last available in www.bornofhope.com since December 1st.

The film tells the story of Arathorn and Gilraen,their love ,their mariiage and the birth of Aragorn,while portraing teh lifestyle of the Rangers of the North.

Although most of the characters in the movie are inspired by Tolkien's work,the spirit of the film is really close to the professor's work,while events that were mentionned in the book are really accurately presented.

I would recomend it to all members.

[Estelyn Telcontar]

I saw the movie at its premiere at Ring*Con in October and was very impressed with what these talented amateurs have done with the material. I second Erendis' recommendation!

[Mnemosyne]

WIN! I'll have to watch it as soon as I get the chance.

[Erendis]

Their work is really impressive ,indeed.And I have to admitt that at first I didn't like what I saw in the trailer and believed "The hunt for Gollum" whould have been much better.Although I still like it,"Born of hope" includes more characters and Tolkien-mentionned facts that make it more close-to-book.

[Mugwump]

Originally Posted by Erendis

"Born of hope" is at last available in www.bornofhopoe.com since December 1st.

Um... that link doesn't seem to be working.

[Nogrod]

It actually works as soon as you do away with the typo... (bornofhopoe!!!)

[Mugwump]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

It actually works as soon as you do away with the typo... (bornofhopoe!!!)

Doh! of course! The correct link: http://www.bornofhope.com/
http://www.bornofhope.com/Watch.html

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Ignorance is bliss... No, ignorance is the worst enemy of bliss.

Ignorance of bliss is the worst!

Originally Posted by Erendis

events that were mentionned in the book are really accurately presented.

What book portrays those events? Do you mean the LOTR appendices? And what is that other language the humans are speaking? Elvish, I suppose? Which would mean they were all Dúnedain, I guess.

Very good film (I'm about halfway through it). But I didn't realize Arathorn was attracted to somewhat pudgy, mature women. I think that younger gal who was carrying a torch for Arathorn is much prettier.

But seriously, when I heard Arathorn say about Gilraen "she is not yet of age" I nearly snorted up my breakfast cereal. Did the Dúnedain consider "of age" to be 33, like the Hobbits? Looking on the Internet I see that the actress, Beth Aynsley, was born in 1981, which would make her 28. She looks at least 35. And being about 20 pounds heavier than I would expect for this role doesn't make her look any younger. But according to Appendix B of LOTR Gilraen was only about 22 when she married Arathorn. Unfortunate casting, IMO.

[Erendis]

First of all sorry about the spelling mistake,but our university's equipment is not of the best quality.Alas us greek students...Anyway,I 'll correct it right away!

Secondly,Mugwump,I am talking about the events mentionned int he books,not the fiction stuff.

Thirdly,my comments do not reffer to the production.I am pleased to see this little film done .I agree that ''Gilraen'' was not the best to be found,but think that for such a little budjet it could have been much worse-and said "WHAT" too when Arathorn mentionned her age.
And from what I remember,the Dunedains did spoke Elvish frequently,since they derive mostly from the people of Adunie-see Aldarion and Erendis.

[Bêthberry]

Very nicely done indeed! I particularly liked the cultural details, the way of building, of cooking, of celebrating, even the clothing. No complaints here on any grounds. Great work from amateurs.

[Mugwump]

Originally Posted by Erendis

Secondly,Mugwump,I am talking about the events mentionned int he books,not the fiction stuff.

I don't understand what you mean. Were there non-fictional events mentioned in the books?

I was asking whether these were events that happened or were mentioned in the main texts, or whether they were from appendices. And to answer my own question, I believe the events you were talking about (the death of Aragorn's father, etc.) occurred in one of the appendices of The Lord of the Rings.

[Nazgûl-king]

I just finished watching it. I though it was quite good. Very well made as well.

[Rumil]

Well, just watched this at last, and I must say I was mightily impressed!

I think it's a real step-up from 'The Hunt for Gollum', far better paced and plotted and a cracking job all round.

I do like the Ring of Barahir being the 'proof' required for orcish termination of Arador/Arathorn (otherwise I guess they could bring back any old finger!). Dol Guldur looming over Southern Mirkwood. Arathorn's infiltration of an orc hold in the Misty Mountains (Goblin Town?). Almost thought that Gollum was going to put in a guest appearence when the underground lake was up. The Troll was pretty well done too and the orcs suitably nasty. Great to see Halbarad, Elrohir and Elladan get a look in.

Only a couple of possible quibbles - the funeral pyre seems non-Dunedain-ish (Gandalf going on about Heathen Kings re Denethor's fiery end etc). Taurdur(?) the Ranger settlement - but wasn't their base in the Angle south of Rivendell - though to give the benefit of the doubt maybe they moved there after the events of the film?

All in all excellent, so I wonder if anything else is in the pipeline?

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

I think I might just as well say that I second basically what Rumil and Lommy have said. And from me (in case somebody didn't know that), saying anything positive about movies means a lot. For a fan movie, it was very good (both as a good job from the people and from the point of view of how many things are usually screwed up when fans make a movie, i.e. terrible uncanonicity or terrible uncanonical character - there was nothing striking like that here and the folk had even relatively normal names - at least compared to "I Have No Imagination son of I Read LotR Once And Wonder What A Ranger's Name Should Be Like").

Originally Posted by Rumil

I do like the Ring of Barahir being the 'proof' required for orcish termination of Arador/Arathorn (otherwise I guess they could bring back any old finger!). Dol Guldur looming over Southern Mirkwood. Arathorn's infiltration of an orc hold in the Misty Mountains (Goblin Town?). Almost thought that Gollum was going to put in a guest appearence when the underground lake was up. The Troll was pretty well done too and the orcs suitably nasty. Great to see Halbarad, Elrohir and Elladan get a look in.

I also thought exactly the same thing about Gollum. And I must say I was wondering whether they are going to introduce Arador's dying scene (a usual fan-made movie approach would be to make somebody bring the news "your father is dead", of course, to easily avoid making difficult scenes) and if yes, then how well are they going to make it - but the troll was really well done. And all the rest too, like I said.

Originally Posted by Erendis

6 months after the filming of "The hunt for Gollum",the new fan-made film "Born of hope" is at last available in www.bornofhope.com since December 1st.

The film tells the story of Arathorn and Gilraen,their love ,their mariiage and the birth of Aragorn,while portraing teh lifestyle of the Rangers of the North.

Although most of the characters in the movie are inspired by Tolkien's work,the spirit of the film is really close to the professor's work,while events that were mentionned in the book are really accurately presented.

I would recomend it to all members.

I just bookmarked it and will watch it very soon in order to give you my own comments. Thanks for sharing. I am very glad to make friends with you guys here.

[Lush]

bornofhopoe does have a nice ring to it, though.

[Rhugga II]

A couple of things:

The thing that really bothered me about these two fan films - and I like almost everything else about them - was their adherence to Jackson's style. Not just costumes, but music, narration, conception, etc. Even Guillermo del Toro has said he plans to redesign certain elements of Jackson's creation (Wood Elves, Wargs, and Goblins). In Born of Hope the Troll is extremely similar to Jackson's Cave Troll and the Orcs in both are very similar to the Jackson concept. Granted, much of Jackson is derivative of Lee and Howe, but there are other ways to go. I am glad that del Toro plans to bring Hellboy creator Mike Mignola on as a concept artist. In the future, fan films could use some more stylistic originality.

Also, the map in Born of Hope is very close to the old Middle Earth Role Playing Rhudaur map . And, I think you can see Cameth Brin, "The Twisted Hill" and capital of Rhudaur, in the film.

Lastly, wasn't there a First Age fan film that was getting hype a few years back?

[Dakêsîntrah]

I really enjoyed this one, much more than "The Hunt for Gollum." Much better done in terms of acting, plot (still rather weak), and dialogue.

One thing that I felt a bit unsure about was the Dunédain's houses. Buildings built out of plank, and window panes made of sticks in the middle of winter? I had imagined they would rather have had those stone huts or hovels, such as the Celts or Vikings. At least possibly something more closer to the Rohan people, with thatched roofs - although we would rather want clear distinction between two very different tribes.

[Erendis]

Originally Posted by Dakêsîntrah

I really enjoyed this one, much more than "The Hunt for Gollum." Much better done in terms of acting, plot (still rather weak), and dialogue.

One thing that I felt a bit unsure about was the Dunédain's houses. Buildings built out of plank, and window panes made of sticks in the middle of winter? I had imagined they would rather have had those stone huts or hovels, such as the Celts or Vikings. At least possibly something more closer to the Rohan people, with thatched roofs - although we would rather want clear distinction between two very different tribes.

Come on!What can a rather refreshing cold breeze-below -25 'C-can do to the Western toughies?

Never said it was THE perfect production.

[Airaloske]

well maybe thats why they had Gilraen be more fluffy...had to withstand drafty houses

back in the day full-figured, wide-hipped women were admired and sought after. Meant they could bear many healthy children and still get up to do a full day's housework. Maybe that was also a trait admired by the Dunedain?

[Erendis]

Say it,say it!Long live us chubby girls!