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04-07-2008, 10:33 AM | #1 |
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Just how do you pronounce Aulë's Valarin Name
I'vve been wondering for a while. Just how do you pronounce A3ûlêz?
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04-08-2008, 08:48 PM | #2 | |
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Perhaps you can puzzle it out from HERE (The Ardalambion Site).
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04-08-2008, 09:18 PM | #3 |
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I believe the special 'g' that's often rendered '3' represents a voiced back spirant - something like the 'ch' in 'Bach' or 'Chanukah' but with the vocal chords vibrating (like the 'gh' in Klingon 'gagh' if you're a Trekkie).
The vowels are undoubtedly supposed to be the continental pronunciation - 'a' as in 'father', 'u' as in 'rule', 'e' like the vowel in 'late'. The circumflexes (actually, I think Tolkien used macrons in Valarin) indicate the 'quantity' or length of the vowel. The 'l' and 'z' are probably just like English. That's my best guess, anyway. |
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04-09-2008, 08:40 AM | #5 |
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From VT (and from the same text that mentions Aʒūlēz).
'The former presence of initial g could be detected by the comparison of, say, Q. alda 'tree' with T. galla, and the process of loss be deduced from the spelling in the old Rúmilian script ʒalda (using an initial sign which was known by tradition among the loremasters to have represented the open back spirant).' JRRT That's from Quendi And Eldar Appendix D published in Vinyar Tengwar 39. In Return of the King it is noted: 'gh in the Black Speech and Orcish represents a 'back spirant' (related to g as dh to d); as in ghâsh and agh.' Just to source a couple things (outside of the web). |
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