Other Palantiri?

[zxcvbn]

The Palantiri of the Numenoreans were oringinally gifts from the Noldor of Tol Eressea. Over time, they were all lost except for two. But since they were made by the Noldor, did the Noldor exiles in Middle Earth have more Palantiri with them? I can imagine Celebrindor(descendant of Feanor and Lord of Eregion) having one, and Gil-Galad(he would've used it to keep in touch with Elendil) and maybe even Galadriel. At the end of the Third Age Elven Lords like Elrond and Galadriel saw and knew what was happening in much of Middle Earth even from afar. Could this be attributed to Palantir use?
About Elrond and Galadriel:

But Elrond saw many things and read many hearts.

and

The Lady of the Wood! She read many hearts and desires.

About Denethor:

And the Lord Denethor is unlike other men: he sees far.

and

He can perceive, if he bends his will thither, much of what is passing in the minds of men, even of those that dwell far off.

I see a link between the first two and the last two lines.

[The Might]

No. Only seven were brought to Middle-earth.
They were made by Feanor and we know he made at least eight, seven of which were given by the Elves to Amandil, at that time chief of the Faithful, who later passed them on to Elendil who brought them to M-e and of course one other palantir that remained in the Undying Lands - the Master-stone in the Tower of Avallone on Tol Eressea.

As far as Elrond's or Galadriel's skills are concerned, I recommend the essay Osanwé-kenta by Pengolodh that deals with the topic of such powers linked with the power of the spirit.

[zxcvbn]

I'm not talking about the Palantiri of Numenor. What I'm asking is wouldn't the Noldor who stayed behind on Middle Earth have some with them?

[The Might]

As we are told of none I doubt it.
Why should any exist then?
Palantiri are instruments of great use, so I am sure that their presence in Rivendell or Lórien would have been mentioned...since I guess they would have perhaps made contact to the Orthanc-stone to discuss with Saruman and stuff like that.
Had the elves of Middle-earth other palantiri, they would have become aware of Sauron's possesion of the Ithil-stone much sooner, which in the book is not the case.
Again, simply the fact that other such important objects are not mentioned speaks against their existence.

[William Cloud Hicklin]

Note also that the Stone of Emyn Beraid remained in the Elves' keeping, in fact they made pilgrimages to look in it: which I think implies strongly that was the only one available to them.

I suppose it's worth wondering whether The Noldor brought any of the Stones into Exile with them.

Arguing for this view is the fact that they wound up in Eressea, not Valinor. However, it might be considered that Finarfin had gone all Vanya in the interim and was no longer interested in hi-tech gadgets, so just handed them over. Indeed it appears the Eresseans had no more use for them by the late Second Age, perhaps due to developed powers of Osanwe or something.

Arguing against this view is the fact that they are never mentioned in the First Age legends: indeed at the Nirnaeth Fingon and Maedhros had to communicate by beacon; nor did anyone have contact with Turgon (whom one might assume to have had one). However, it is likely the case that Tolkien never got around to backwriting the Palantiri into the pre-existing legends.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by William Cloud Hickli

Note also that the Stone of Emyn Beraid remained in the Elves' keeping, in fact they made pilgrimages to look in it: which I think implies strongly that was the only one available to them.

Did they? Could you post where this is written (the quotation if possible)? I know Círdan's elves were guarding it, but that does not mean they used it. And also about these pilgrimages, could you post the reference? I believe it is not known whether since Elendil anyone looked in it (it is presumed that no one did).

[Lalwendë]

Originally Posted by The Might

As far as Elrond's or Galadriel's skills are concerned, I recommend the essay Osanwé-kenta by Pengolodh that deals with the topic of such powers linked with the power of the spirit.

Yes, good pointer! After reading that, I've developed the theory that one of the functions of the Rings of Power, at the very least the three Elven Rings, was to enhance (or maybe to attempt to bestow or even corrupt the skill in the case of the Seven and Nine) this skill. And that would also answer the quotes that zxcvbn brings up about Elrond and Galadriel. Why would they need Palantiri if the Rings had this function? Though of course this idea must be tempered by the fact that they had to keep their Rings hidden after Sauron created the One.

[William Cloud Hicklin]

The 'missing' palantir was that of Annuminas- it was lost with Arvedui, together with that of Amon Sul (which was rescued, not destroyed, when the fortress fell)

[The Might]

Yep, sorry to disappoint you Alfirin, but as stated in LotR no man or beast had ever set foot on that island.

I must agree with Lalwende, I also believe that the Rings might have somehow enhanced the link between the bearers.

[zxcvbn]

A question on the Palantir of the Tower Hills. The appendices say that Elrond took it with him when he left Middle Earth. But since it was the Palantir of Elendil, didn't it belong to Aragorn by right? Why didn't Elrond give it to Aragorn during his coronation? Greedy, thieving Elves!