Say what?

[alatar]

This morning I took the younger two to a local park that also is a working farm. The girls love to see the animals; that is as long as the animals don't come too close. We saw the usual farm animals - pigs, chickens, cows, goats and geese and a stray cat or two. It was when we saw the horses that the girls really got a little scared.

We stood next to the white plastic fence that easily would keep the large animals from eating us - sure, horses are herbivores, that is until they decide to evolve and become meat-eaters, and I don't want to be there that day. Anyway, so I held my littlest one, and my other daughter stood somewhat behind me as the large horse approached. When the horse reached the fence, the babe in my arms clung to me so tightly it would have taken grease and a crowbar to get her to let go of dad.

The other one, I noticed, was backing away crying/screaming about the approach of the horse, and this was unlike her.

"Stand your ground!" It was out of my mouth before I even realized what I'd said. Instead of continuing with, "You are a daughter of alatar! No matter what comes near that fence you will stand your ground!" I said things more soothing to the child, and eventually she bucked up enough courage to come over and pet one of the three horses that had shown up.

So that incident got me to thinking: First, I still have the movies a little too much on the mind. And what other Peter Jackson movie quotes was I using?

Have you ever found yourself or another using a movie quote? And which, if any, have made it into the common lexicon?

Please don't respond with "She-Elf," as my head will just explode.

[Folwren]

That is so funny, alatar. I busted up laughing so hard when I heard what you said. . .

I know my sister and I quote LotR all the time for real life stuff that happens, but I simply can't remember any of them with the picture of you and your girls and you saying, "Stand your ground!" Oh, it's too funny!

-- Folwren

[Durelin]

Amazing. And hilarious.

Personally, I believe my brain works best when it comes to association, so things are always reminding me of other things...most often something someone says sparks a movie quote or line from a song. I don't think I can begin to recount the LotR lines I've used...of course Star Wars lines outrank LotR lines in use by far...

I think these have slipped into the 'common lexicon', so to speak, at least in my experience as a...'teenager'... >_>

"Is it secret, is it safe?" / "Keep it secret, keep it safe" seem to be fairly common phrases to me. If you have a large enough group, at least one person there is going to know how to respond to "Is it secret...?"

I also think "my precious" is pretty common, too.

Oh, and "You shall not pass"...'nough said.

And possibly "the One ____ to rule them all"...I think the blank has been filled in with innumerable things.

Of course, I'm trying to differentiate between my personal *nerd culture* and the *culture* of the *general population* and I'm having some difficulties, so...

[littlemanpoet]

But some of the ones you point to, Durelin, are from the Books, long before the movie had even been thought of.

"My precious", for example.

What I want to know, is how did daughter react initially to the strong alatar/dad?

[Durelin]

Yes, but the movie undoubtedly brought them into more frequent use, or at least have made it so that more people 'get them', so to speak. Sorry, I thought that was part of the idea.

Most of my high school class, for example, knew the movies well, even though only a handful had read the books and only a fraction more will probably ever read them in the future (at least, in my opinion).

(Finds it strangely amussing that 'the Books' is now a proper noun... )

[Knight of Gondor]

That's pretty good. Horses can be intimidating to little tykes!

I intentionally incorporate more archaic expressions and phraseology from Tolkien (and others, such as books by C.S. Lewis, or Arthur Conan Doyle or Victor Hugo) because I think it maintains connections with the past. And maybe, makes me a bit smarter, or at least conveys that illusion.

I know that the more artistic (if somewhat roundabout) prose manner of writing from older authors has influenced the way I write online too.

What's more, I'm constantly quoting movies such as Lord of the Rings. My brothers and sisters have generally seen the same things I have, so sometimes a certain quote at a certain time makes for an extremely inside joke.

Since it's a habit, it's difficult to say if I've ever involuntarily blurted out a quote such as "stand your ground!" before.

[alatar]

Originally Posted by littlemanpoet

What I want to know, is how did daughter react initially to the strong alatar/dad?

"Boog" stood her ground. It's odd - kids. She's the one that would jump into deep water without a thought. She's the one I placed on a (flat) roof to retrieve a toy. She was never in any danger, but the other ones thought that it was too scary, but Boog didn't hesitate. She's always at my side when I use power tools. Why she's suddenly afraid of animals - horses and spiders - I'm not sure if it's an age thing, a season thing (change) or a personality thing. I immediately felt bad when I said what I said, and worked to undo whatever damage I may have done with soft words and by helping overcome the fear. We got closer to the fence, then closer, then I held her up so she could pet the horse, she knowing that if she wanted to move back I would immediately do so.

You'll probably see Boog on some talk show one day getting audience/media therapy for having a Tolkien-nut father and equinophobia/hippophobia.

Anyway, as the movies were presented via an episode of the colorful language-ridden cartoon "South Park," I would assume that Jackson's works can be considered part of the popular and not just nerd lexicons.

Know that I've stated this before, but one of my favorite ways of entering the office on a Monday morning is to look as I always do (tired and out of sorts), come in, squint a little while looking left and right then exclaim, "I have no memory of this place..."

[Folwren]

Did you actually say 'Stand your ground' like Gandalf said it in the movie?

[alatar]

Originally Posted by Folwren

Did you actually say 'Stand your ground' like Gandalf said it in the movie?

Not sure. The moment was so fleeting it's hard to tell. It wasn't like, "stand your ground, perhaps?" like I was speaking to the elves at Helm's Deep. On the other hand, I didn't shout.

Still, the words were the same, and if I'd heard them a thousand times from one source, it's very possible that I sounded just like Ian.

[Sauron the White]

Alatar . .that is one cute story ./......

you asked if we do the same and the answer is YES YES YES. I have a grandson who will be six in a few weeks. For some strange reason unknown to me, he just loves the LOTR movies. Go figure. He has seen them with me at least dozens of times. He can quote the lines as the film rolls.

Sometimes we go up to the local park where they have a playscape with a bridge. We do the "you shall not pass" routine on a regular basis. The playscape has a mediaval castle look so he says it is Helms Deep.

We also play LOTR quite alot. He and I act out scenes from the films including the scene where the Corsairs try to enter Gondor, Sam battling with Shelob, Boromir battling the Uruk-hai, and the decapitation of the Mouth of Sauron. In every reenactment, he is always the forces of good and I am the bad guys.

Love those kids cause they grow so very fast. Sounds like you already know that.

Your story made me smile and feel very good.

[Knight of Gondor]

Originally Posted by alatar

Not sure. The moment was so fleeting it's hard to tell. It wasn't like, "stand your ground, perhaps?" like I was speaking to the elves at Helm's Deep. On the other hand, I didn't shout.

Still, the words were the same, and if I'd heard them a thousand times from one source, it's very possible that I sounded just like Ian.

There's several times where it was said. Gandalf shouted it to the soldiers of Gondor, Theoden shouted it to the riders of Rohan, and Aragorn shouted it (actually, "hold your ground") to the armies of the Men of the West.

[MatthewM]

Originally Posted by alatar

Have you ever found yourself or another using a movie quote? And which, if any, have made it into the common lexicon?

Haha, indeed. I believe I might have used "Stand your ground!" as well. Also (although not limited to):

"It is folly"

"What say you?!"

"There is always hope"

[Lord Halsar]

alatar... i have been waiting for somone to post this thread (or one of similarity). I have said such quotes so frequently lately that i sometimes think that i could have done the voice of the One Ring for the movie.
My deep voice is perfect for quotes from some of the most interesting characters (I swear to the dear Lord that I can sound EXACTLY like the Witchking or Ian).
Here is a small list of my said quotes...
"Death!"
"You Shall not Pass!"
"Ash Nazg Durbatuluk, Ash Nazg Gimbatul. Ash Nazg Thrakatuluk. Agh Burzum Ishi Krimpatul. "

"Go back to the shadows. Fall into the nothingness that awaits you and your master! "
"You Fool. Do you not know death when you see it, old man? This is my hour! "
I can even do the echoes and whisper-like pitches of the WK's voice. Anyway, the list goes on and on.
As for your horse encounter, I would have done exactly the same thing I bet.

[Folwren]

Alright, with the help of my sisters and Mom, I remembered some.

My Mom's favorite to use is - "Get off the road!" and she uses it as often as possible.

My most used quote is "What are you doing?" in either Frodo's voice on Weather Top or Pippin's in Flotsam and Jetsam when Merry is making sure he's taller than Pip. When being snacked on by horse flies - "What do they eat when they can't get human?" (It's supposed to be hobbit, but, well, I'm not a hobbit.) Then, of course, there's the famous "You can not pass!" I guess everyone uses that eventually.

Now...another I use quite often isn't from LotR but from Master and Commander and that runs "You there! Stand fast!" That's probably used more often than any LotR quote.....

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Folwren

My Mom's favorite to use is - "Get off the road!" and she uses it as often as possible.

That reminds me of... Whenever me, my sis and my dad (or some combination of us three) pass a place that even remotely resembles that place in the FotR movie, someone of us (usually my dad) has to shout: "Get off the road!" Now this is quite serious since we normally don't speak English, but then again, this is always an intentional joke...

Also, "you shall not pass" used to be the favourite quote of Finnish teenager boys (or at least of those in my class) some years ago.

[Sir Kohran]

I've often found myself using 'This is a foe beyond any of you...', when I see impossible questions at school, or during multiplayer games, etc. I have to admit, it's got quite a catch to it...

[TheGreatElvenWarrior]

Where do I begin, hehehe my friends and parents get sooo annoyed... I don't have the time to write a fraction of them... but I do say "My Precious" a lot since I do have "The One Ring" that I wear around my neck... but I say "That's not my precious... that's Smeagol's precious... my precious is my copy of The LotR books that I bought with my own money that I made by babysitting. When I get the time I will add to this. Ok adding, well I say the You know PO-TA-TOES line a lot, and so does my mom. It's hilarious, because she gets sooo annoyed with my constant LotR cracks. So the other day I was in gym and we played this game called capture the rings... well I changed it to "Capture the Ring, it's what the Nazgul play" hehehe

[Valier]

Ha!!! My sides hurt.... I just had to add one of my own.

One night while making supper, my fiance asked "what are we having as a side dish?" or something to that effect. I answered, "Potatoes" The t.v being quite loud he didn't hear me and yells "What!?" I couldn't resist, I walked into the room he was in and said " You know p-o-t-a-t-o-e-s, boil 'em, mash 'em stick 'em in a stew." We both broke out at that one.
I believe it was Sam who said this. I'm not quite sure if it was just in the movies or if it was in the books too.

I know the "You shall not pass" one has come up a few times. Oh yeah and I just love doing the part in the movie in Rivendel when Viggo says something like "you cannot wield it, noone can." his voice goes all squeaky and so unAragornish, it just makes me laugh.

[Knight of Gondor]

Originally Posted by Valier

One night while making supper, my fiance asked "what are we having as a side dish?" or something to that effect. I answered, "Potatoes" The t.v being quite loud he didn't hear me and yells "What!?" I couldn't resist, I walked into the room he was in and said " You know p-o-t-a-t-o-e-s, boil 'em, mash 'em stick 'em in a stew." We both broke out at that one.

Oh yeah and I just love doing the part in the movie in Rivendel when Viggo says something like "you cannot wield it, noone can." his voice goes all squeaky and so unAragornish, it just makes me laugh.

I know, what was WITH his voice? But we've done the "POE-TAY-TOES?!" song on several occasions ourselves.

[alatar]

Can't find it in the script, but kinda remember it being in the FotR movie. "Let us hope that our presence may go unnoticed." I think this to myself, as saying it would defeat the purpose, when walking though one of the kids' bedrooms at night. There's always some creaky floorboard or precariously set toy that acts as 'a Pippin in a mine.'

[TheGreatElvenWarrior]

Originally Posted by alatar

Can't find it in the script, but kinda remember it being in the FotR movie. "Let us hope that our presence may go unnoticed." I think this to myself, as saying it would defeat the purpose, when walking though one of the kids' bedrooms at night. There's always some creaky floorboard or precariously set toy that acts as 'a Pippin in a mine.'

OOOOOHHHH I like that Pippin in a mine thing! Can I use it?

[littlemanpoet]

I suppose this doesn't directly apply to this thread, but it does in an indirect way: while driving home from work the other day, I stopped at a red light behind a car (I can't remember the make and model but it was small) with a sticker in the rear window that read:

NOT ALL WHO WANDER ARE LOST

I wanted to follow the person home, but I thought I might be thought of as a stalker, so I didn't. But still, it was nice to be reminded of LotR and Aragorn and Bree at an unexpected moment.

[alatar]

Originally Posted by littlemanpoet

NOT ALL WHO WANDER ARE LOST

Once saw a T-shirt in a sporting goods store with the same quote beside a pair of hiking boots. Don't think that there was any Tolkien acknowledgment.

[Folwren]

I don't believe it's quite a direct quote, for in the book it is, "Not all those who wander are lost." But clearly this quote that you two have seen is based off of it.

[Sauron the White]

Have one of those T-shirts. Its from the LIFE IS GOOD company which is a neat story in itself if you want to research it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_is_Good

the shirt says "not all who wander are lost". A slight change from the exact quote as Folwren indicated. I thought it was neat to see a LOTR quote on a shirt with no other reference to it. The people who ran the store had no idea.

[Meriadoc1961]

"What about second breakfast?" is what my wife and I say quite a lot.

My little kids used to go around saying in their best Gollum impersonations, "My precioussss!" I haven't heard that one in a while.

It seems that there have been others, but I can not remember them right now.

Merry