Treebeard's fate - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

MatthewM · 02-01-2007, 11:11 PM

I can't recall what happens to Treebeard and the Ents at the end of the books, besides they just go about their everyday lives without orc rubbish. Presumably, they never find the Ent Wives, which is pretty sad...but let's not talk about the Ent Wives, that is a whole different can of worms, haha. What do you think happened to Treebeard and the Ents? Any official notes from Tolkien that anybody knows of?

FeRaL sHaDoW · 02-01-2007, 11:45 PM

may i say the great fangorn forest bush fire....

Thinlómien · 02-02-2007, 02:17 AM

Maybe they wandered to the West and disappeared when all other legends did, possibly meeting the Entwines in the forests of the Blessed Realm...

Or maybe they all became, year by year, decade by decade, century by century, more treeish and faded away...

Kath · 02-02-2007, 07:16 AM

With Tolkien's style I think the latter is probably right Lommy. It's sad, but somehow more 'real'.

Sardy · 02-02-2007, 07:56 AM

Great topic! Let me add a question (or two)... Are the Ents considered to be immortal (like the elves), or just extremely long-lived? As such, would they be welcome in Valinor?

As I recall from the Silmarillion, Eru had plans for the "souls" of elves and men (granted, his plan for men remained a mystery, but it is enough to know that there WAS a plan) and even the Dwarves were taken care of after Aulë's little coup d'etat... but is there anywhere in the works of Tolkien a mention of the afterlife of the Ents?

MatthewM · 02-02-2007, 11:04 AM

I'm not fluent with the Silmarillion, so unfortunetly I'm not sure! I would imagine so though, I mean that would just be bias if Eru didn't allow Ents to the Blessed Realm. We don't know that for sure, but say Eru did let the Ents in...that poses another question- how would Ents even get there?

From my guessings Ents were immortal, unless being cut down, burnt, and such. So maybe, like Thin said, time goes on, the world gets stale, and the Ents fade and become "treeish". Would the soul of that Ent then travel towards the Blessed Realm, its time on M-e being over?

02-01-2007, 11:11 PM	#1
MatthewM Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: New York Posts: 628	Treebeard's fate I can't recall what happens to Treebeard and the Ents at the end of the books, besides they just go about their everyday lives without orc rubbish. Presumably, they never find the Ent Wives, which is pretty sad...but let's not talk about the Ent Wives, that is a whole different can of worms, haha. What do you think happened to Treebeard and the Ents? Any official notes from Tolkien that anybody knows of? __________________ "Loud and clear it sounds in the valleys of the hills...and then let all the foes of Gondor flee!" -Boromir, The Fellowship of the Ring

02-01-2007, 11:45 PM	#2
FeRaL sHaDoW Wight Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: New Zealand Posts: 232	may i say the great fangorn forest bush fire.... __________________ God created night, but man created darkness....

02-02-2007, 02:17 AM	#3
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	Maybe they wandered to the West and disappeared when all other legends did, possibly meeting the Entwines in the forests of the Blessed Realm... Or maybe they all became, year by year, decade by decade, century by century, more treeish and faded away... __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris

02-02-2007, 07:16 AM	#4
Kath Everlasting Whiteness Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Perusing the laminated book of dreams Posts: 4,533	With Tolkien's style I think the latter is probably right Lommy. It's sad, but somehow more 'real'. __________________ “If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.”

02-02-2007, 07:56 AM	#5
Sardy Wight Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Hudson Valley, NY Posts: 111	Great topic! Let me add a question (or two)... Are the Ents considered to be immortal (like the elves), or just extremely long-lived? As such, would they be welcome in Valinor? As I recall from the Silmarillion, Eru had plans for the "souls" of elves and men (granted, his plan for men remained a mystery, but it is enough to know that there WAS a plan) and even the Dwarves were taken care of after Aulë's little coup d'etat... but is there anywhere in the works of Tolkien a mention of the afterlife of the Ents? __________________ www.scottchristiancarr.com They passed slowly, and the hobbits could see the starlight glimmering on their hair and in their eyes.

02-02-2007, 11:04 AM	#6
MatthewM Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: New York Posts: 628	I'm not fluent with the Silmarillion, so unfortunetly I'm not sure! I would imagine so though, I mean that would just be bias if Eru didn't allow Ents to the Blessed Realm. We don't know that for sure, but say Eru did let the Ents in...that poses another question- how would Ents even get there? From my guessings Ents were immortal, unless being cut down, burnt, and such. So maybe, like Thin said, time goes on, the world gets stale, and the Ents fade and become "treeish". Would the soul of that Ent then travel towards the Blessed Realm, its time on M-e being over? __________________ "Loud and clear it sounds in the valleys of the hills...and then let all the foes of Gondor flee!" -Boromir, The Fellowship of the Ring