The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum


Visit The *EVEN NEWER* Barrow-Downs Photo Page

Go Back   The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum > Middle-Earth Discussions > Novices and Newcomers
User Name
Password
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-07-2006, 04:17 PM   #1
Mansun
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
1420! Middle-Earth for Real?

Is there any news of a Middle Earth settings being constructed for real (obviously at a smaller scale) as some sort of theme park?
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-08-2006, 02:41 PM   #2
frodo1021
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
No. Noone would go. It would be nerdy and unpopular.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-08-2006, 02:54 PM   #3
ninja91
Shade of Carn Dûm
 
ninja91's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Chozo Ruins.
Posts: 421
ninja91 has just left Hobbiton.
Not true, frodo1021. I am not saying I would go, but it would be pretty cool if they could pull something like that off, although I doubt there are any plans.
__________________
Quote:
The rider was robed all in black, and black was his lofty helm; yet this was no Ringwraith but a living man. The Lieutenant of the Tower of Barad-dûr he was, and his name is remembered in no tale; for he himself had forgotten it...
ninja91 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-08-2006, 03:01 PM   #4
frodo1021
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
People would be made fun of if they went, because people should not get too into this nerdy stuff.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-08-2006, 03:56 PM   #5
Mansun
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
1420!

Quote:
Originally Posted by frodo1021
People would be made fun of if they went, because people should not get too into this nerdy stuff.
What is nerdy about it?? This is not Harry Potter!!!
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-08-2006, 04:36 PM   #6
frodo1021
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Everything. All you people want to do is speak Elvish.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-09-2006, 07:58 AM   #7
Mansun
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
1420!

Quote:
Originally Posted by frodo1021
People would be made fun of if they went, because people should not get too into this nerdy stuff.
Frodo1021 how old are you? Please don't be offended by the question. Would people make fun of you if you told them you post threads on the Barrow Downs too?

I have to quote this again from Frodo1021 & try to decide if it is worth crying with laughter over, or just laughing out loud but not too much :-

Quote:
Originally Posted by frodo1021
People would be made fun of if they went, because people should not get too into this nerdy stuff.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-09-2006, 08:48 AM   #8
Macalaure
Fading Fëanorion
 
Macalaure's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: into the flood again
Posts: 2,911
Macalaure is a guest of Elrond in Rivendell.Macalaure is a guest of Elrond in Rivendell.Macalaure is a guest of Elrond in Rivendell.
The funny thing is, that he regarded 'nerdy' as something negative.


Quote:
It probably wouldn't work as a Tolkien's World theme park, but it certainly could be built to form part of another major theme park (not necessarily Disney Land) to see Middle-Earth brought to life. There could be touches of areas such as Hobbiton, Gandalf & his fireworks, Rivendell, Loth Lorien, the mines of Moria, the Dark Tower etc incorporated into it. Quite a fun day out for the children & tourists, but not so perhaps for the die hard Tolkein Book fans. The main theme behind it would have to be fun - so rollercoasters (e.g. in the mines of Moria etc) would have to be part of it.
But there are soo many theme parks out there, which is good, so do we really need a Tolkien-related one? For the general public it doesn't matter whether it has a Tolkien touch or not and I'm really not sure if die-hard fans would like it this way. I would rather buy a pint of ale at the Prancing Pony in my fantasy than buy some over-priced merchandise at an existing one.

Unless you can float down a wild river in a barrel! Then I'm in!
Macalaure is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-23-2006, 10:55 AM   #9
ThoréandanSilverleaf
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Leaf Is Mansun really Laylyn in disguise?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mansun
Is there any news of a Middle Earth settings being constructed for real (obviously at a smaller scale) as some sort of theme park?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Laylyn on the LOTR Plaza
Sometimes I find myself wandering off, sort of day dreaming about a place that I could live a life mirrored to that of those from the Lord of the RIngs. I may be crazy, and then again I may not be, but if I had the choice to live in a "refuge" with minimal technology and with the lifestyle of the characters that I have grown to know and love from these wonderful novels and movies I would. I know that this would/could probably never happen, but how wonderful it would be if it did ever come to pass. Just imagine, waking up everyday, and living a lifestyle based how you wanted it, and not how society wants you to live. Imagine, being raised as an Elf or Dwarf. Imagine learning to speak the language of the Elves or Dwarves and speaking it on a daily basis. Imagine growing and hunting for your food, with bows and axes, and living everyday as a wonderous adventure in which anything could happen. I know, it is just a fantasy, but the amish do it, and seem to love who they are, what they do, and what they have become. Just a note, parts of Montana look very much like Middle earth and the land is extremely cheap, so if there are a few hundred people or so who would like to even consider thinking about doing something like this in the future let me know, and I would be there in a heartbeat.
Hehe Mansun, you're not related in any way to Laylyn on the LOTR Plaza are you? He made the above quote just recently and your quote reminds me so much of the huge discussion that we just had about this subject. We discussed the idea of a theme park, amongst other things. I think it would be awesome to do something like this. I live in New Zealand, and we have the tours of the PJ movie sets still running. But they just aren't the same now that the props are gone. "This is where Bag End used to be. This is where Orthanc used to be. Blah blah blah. Someone should recreate it, I think. I'd love to go along and visit, but I don't think I could handle Laylyn's idea of moving in and living there permanently though

Last edited by ThoréandanSilverleaf; 10-23-2006 at 11:29 AM. Reason: Fixing the linkie
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2006, 11:00 AM   #10
Holbytlass
Ghost Prince of Cardolan
 
Holbytlass's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: The Party Tree
Posts: 1,042
Holbytlass has just left Hobbiton.
I think something more low-keyed than Disney would be fun. Something along the lines of a roadside attraction or Rennosantce Fair (Obviously it's same time frame). I like the Moria roller coaster and Long Lake barrel ride ideas.
Wasn't it at the premier of FOTR when things were set up for the rich and famous to tour? I remember that the Prancing Pony was setup from a hobbit's point of view, I would've liked that.
__________________
Holby is an actual flesh-and-blood person, right? Not, say a sock-puppet of Nilp’s, by any chance? ~Nerwen, WWCIII
Holbytlass is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2006, 09:55 AM   #11
Mansun
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Sting

Quote:
Originally Posted by ThoréandanSilverleaf
Hehe Mansun, you're not related in any way to Laylyn on the LOTR Plaza are you? He made the above quote just recently and your quote reminds me so much of the huge discussion that we just had about this subject. We discussed the idea of a theme park, amongst other things. I think it would be awesome to do something like this. I live in New Zealand, and we have the tours of the PJ movie sets still running. But they just aren't the same now that the props are gone. "This is where Bag End used to be. This is where Orthanc used to be. Blah blah blah. Someone should recreate it, I think. I'd love to go along and visit, but I don't think I could handle Laylyn's idea of moving in and living there permanently though
The answer is no - I am the one & only Mansun!
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2006, 10:46 PM   #12
Estelyn Telcontar
Princess of Skwerlz
 
Estelyn Telcontar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles)
Posts: 7,500
Estelyn Telcontar has reached the Cracks of Doom and destroyed the Ring!Estelyn Telcontar has reached the Cracks of Doom and destroyed the Ring!Estelyn Telcontar has reached the Cracks of Doom and destroyed the Ring!Estelyn Telcontar has reached the Cracks of Doom and destroyed the Ring!Estelyn Telcontar has reached the Cracks of Doom and destroyed the Ring!Estelyn Telcontar has reached the Cracks of Doom and destroyed the Ring!Estelyn Telcontar has reached the Cracks of Doom and destroyed the Ring!Estelyn Telcontar has reached the Cracks of Doom and destroyed the Ring!Estelyn Telcontar has reached the Cracks of Doom and destroyed the Ring!Estelyn Telcontar has reached the Cracks of Doom and destroyed the Ring!
The one big problem that a Tolkien theme park would face is that of legal rights. While travelling, I just recently visited the one and only movie site that still shows remnants of structures - "Hobbiton" in Matamata, New Zealand. The only reason it wasn't completely cleared away like the other filming sites was because bad weather stopped the deconstruction. When people started coming to see it, the farmer on whose land it is located went through a lengthy process to get permission to keep the hobbit holes as they were - stripped down to the basic structure, but with round door and window openings still visible. Above all, the magnificent Party Tree still stands, and seeing it was worth the admission price!

The guide told us that interest in seeing the location has grown rather than diminished within the past couple of years since the site has opened. Whether the same thing would apply to a theme park is hard to predict. I think it would be fun to collect specific ideas for speculating and dreaming about the kind of park you'd want to see made, if New Line and the Tolkien Estate gave their permission.

What kind of rides would you want to have? (Macalaure's suggestion of a barrel ride on a river is a great idea!) Would there be a song-and-dance show featuring Hobbit songs and the Springle-Ring?

I think a rope climbing wall to simulate the Dwarves' climb up the Lonely Mountain in The Hobbit could be done. Bungy-jumping with Elven rope that looses itself, however, sounds like a bad idea!


[Moderator's note: Since the person who posted nonsense on this thread has been banned, there is no need to respond to his comments. I have not deleted his posts for the simple reason that other responding posts would lose their context if I did so.]
__________________
'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'
Estelyn Telcontar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-31-2006, 10:03 AM   #13
JennyHallu
The Pearl, The Lily Maid
 
JennyHallu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: In my luxury Barrow, snuggled up in a pile of satin pillows, eating fresh fruit.
Posts: 1,628
JennyHallu has just left Hobbiton.
Send a message via ICQ to JennyHallu Send a message via AIM to JennyHallu Send a message via MSN to JennyHallu Send a message via Yahoo to JennyHallu
Ooh...ooh! A log flume ride for the Falls! Wheeeee!!!!!!!!!

And Smaug should be a roller coaster.

The "Main Street" area (you know, at the entrance, with few to no rides, but a lot of shops and restaurants and a couple shows) should be the Shire, centered around the Party Tree. There should be crafts demonstrations too...a blacksmith, etc...
__________________
<=== Lookee, lookee, lots of IM handles!
JennyHallu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-2006, 02:38 PM   #14
Lalwendë
A Mere Boggart
 
Lalwendë's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: under the bed
Posts: 4,737
Lalwendë is battling Black Riders on Weathertop.Lalwendë is battling Black Riders on Weathertop.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Estelyn Telcontar
The one big problem that a Tolkien theme park would face is that of legal rights. While travelling, I just recently visited the one and only movie site that still shows remnants of structures - "Hobbiton" in Matamata, New Zealand. The only reason it wasn't completely cleared away like the other filming sites was because bad weather stopped the deconstruction. When people started coming to see it, the farmer on whose land it is located went through a lengthy process to get permission to keep the hobbit holes as they were - stripped down to the basic structure, but with round door and window openings still visible. Above all, the magnificent Party Tree still stands, and seeing it was worth the admission price!

The guide told us that interest in seeing the location has grown rather than diminished within the past couple of years since the site has opened. Whether the same thing would apply to a theme park is hard to predict. I think it would be fun to collect specific ideas for speculating and dreaming about the kind of park you'd want to see made, if New Line and the Tolkien Estate gave their permission.
Esty, that farm was chosen because of the tree. The irony is that prior to being chosen as the film location, the farmer's son was about to chop that tree down. They did add some 'digital leaves' to it though, I believe. Did it look as lush in real life?

I wouldn't hold your breath for the estate to authorise a theme park, as that won't happen until the sun turns black and the stars fall from the sky, but the area around Sarehole in Birmingham is rapidly becoming something of a Tolkien tourist area - a new Stratford on Avon?
__________________
Gordon's alive!
Lalwendë is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:33 AM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.