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Morsul the Dark · 09-17-2006, 03:11 PM

or more accurately seeds?

Do ents give birth like people and animals or plants with seeds ab pollen and such...

ninja91 · 09-18-2006, 05:28 AM

I cant say that it is recorded (if it is please correct me!). My guess then is that yes, they do lay some sort of seed that grows until it is strong enough to walk, or something like that. But I doubt that an ent would lay an egg...

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 09-18-2006, 07:04 AM

If Ents use pollenation to reproduce, surely they don't need actually to find the Entwives: they could just stand in an area and release pollen into the air, then cross their fingers. I think that the close personal ties between Entish couples like Fangorn and Fimbrethil indicates something more personal than airborne particles, but that's just some hastily applied logic. Tolkien is, of course, silent on the subject.

MatthewM · 09-18-2006, 09:31 AM

An interesting question, but like the mystery of the Entwives, there is no sure answer.

narfforc · 09-18-2006, 10:09 AM

I thought of this only last week and came to the conclusion, that maybe Entings are saplings sprung from shoots when the roots of Ents and Entwives become close.

Does that make any sense?

Lalwendë · 09-18-2006, 10:38 AM

Pollination might not be completely out as some plants are not asexual, and need a male/female plant in order to successfully produce fruit e.g. some varities of Pear. Also some do not pollinate indiscriminately (if Ents did, then there would be no Ent couples as the Entings could have any number of fathers), but need assistance, such as some pansies and tomatoes.

Yours, Alan Titchmarsh.

Morsul the Dark · 09-18-2006, 07:35 PM

lovely answers...really just great....you guys went BANANAS about this thread

perhaps its a mix between human reproduction and pollination using flwers except with physical contact(tryng t stay vagu yet descriptive) like ahug or somethng like they use pollen but it has to physicly be transported

not just my theory

narfforc · 09-19-2006, 03:18 AM

I am overwh(elm)ed with laughter that I am ch(oak)ing, my face is wet with tears, so I need to w(ash) it, but (fir)st I have to set my video to tape an Ed(wood) (Woodwood) film and another called Taur-en-ferno.

Essex · 09-19-2006, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by narfforc

I am overwh(elm)ed with laughter that I am ch(oak)ing, my face is wet with tears, so I need to w(ash) it, but (fir)st I have to set my video to tape an Ed(wood) (Woodwood) film and another called Taur-en-ferno.

You know why Edward Woodward has so many 'd's in his name?

Otherwise he'd be known as Ewar Woowar........

I thank you.

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 09-19-2006, 10:20 AM

I thought it was because he's 2,000 years old and has Latin as his first language (D+D+D+D).

I feel strangely drawn to Lalwendë's (or is that Alan's?) theory about Entish pollenation, but I think it would still be rather random. Maybe the answer would be a swarm of trained bees, but that's beginning to sound weird and twisted, prompting my immediate silence.

Thinlómien · 09-19-2006, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Morsul the Dark

or more accurately seeds?

Do ents give birth like people and animals or plants with seeds ab pollen and such...

Thank you, Morsul. You just saved me from blackmailing.

Morsul the Dark · 09-19-2006, 02:37 PM

I gt it it explans ent anatomy and why the ents need the wives

each couple plants two seeds one ent one entwife the two sprouts grow togeth into one being( each sprout is a leg and once cmbined mae a body and arms and all that good stuff...

alatar · 09-20-2006, 11:42 AM

One would think that 'something' had to take place between the Ents and the Entwives - the fact that there are no Entings due to the lack of Entwives makes me believe that the male and female had to be together to start a new life. Could it be - hey, this is Middle Earth - that the two lay hands on a tree that both had chosen and instill a soul or new life into the tree? This idea springs from Treebeard's lighting his hall and empowering the ent draughts and that he says that some trees became entish and some Ents became treeish. On the other hand, that would be like a shepherd choosing a sheep to become a...well...kid.

Could it be simply that the Entwife plants an acorn in the earth and the Ent instills as above?

mark12_30 · 09-20-2006, 07:10 PM

We could ask Treebeard about the details, but I suspect he has forgotten, burarum.

09-17-2006, 03:11 PM	#1
Morsul the Dark Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,448	Do ents lay eggs? or more accurately seeds? Do ents give birth like people and animals or plants with seeds ab pollen and such... __________________ Morsul the Resurrected

09-18-2006, 07:04 AM	#3
The Squatter of Amon Rûdh Spectre of Decay Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bar-en-Danwedh Posts: 2,178	Entish reproduction If Ents use pollenation to reproduce, surely they don't need actually to find the Entwives: they could just stand in an area and release pollen into the air, then cross their fingers. I think that the close personal ties between Entish couples like Fangorn and Fimbrethil indicates something more personal than airborne particles, but that's just some hastily applied logic. Tolkien is, of course, silent on the subject. __________________ Man kenuva métim' andúne?

09-18-2006, 09:31 AM	#4
MatthewM Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: New York Posts: 628	An interesting question, but like the mystery of the Entwives, there is no sure answer. __________________ "Loud and clear it sounds in the valleys of the hills...and then let all the foes of Gondor flee!" -Boromir, The Fellowship of the Ring

09-18-2006, 10:09 AM	#5
narfforc Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Muddy-earth Posts: 1,297	I thought of this only last week and came to the conclusion, that maybe Entings are saplings sprung from shoots when the roots of Ents and Entwives become close. Does that make any sense? __________________ [B]THE LORD OF THE GRINS:THE ONE PARODY....A PARODY BETTER THAN THE RINGS OF POWER.

09-18-2006, 10:38 AM	#6
Lalwendë A Mere Boggart Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: under the bed Posts: 4,737	Pollination might not be completely out as some plants are not asexual, and need a male/female plant in order to successfully produce fruit e.g. some varities of Pear. Also some do not pollinate indiscriminately (if Ents did, then there would be no Ent couples as the Entings could have any number of fathers), but need assistance, such as some pansies and tomatoes. Yours, Alan Titchmarsh. __________________ Gordon's alive!

09-18-2006, 07:35 PM	#7
Morsul the Dark Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,448	lovely answers...really just great....you guys went BANANAS about this thread perhaps its a mix between human reproduction and pollination using flwers except with physical contact(tryng t stay vagu yet descriptive) like ahug or somethng like they use pollen but it has to physicly be transported not just my theory __________________ Morsul the Resurrected Last edited by Morsul the Dark; 09-18-2006 at 08:07 PM.

09-19-2006, 03:18 AM	#8
narfforc Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Muddy-earth Posts: 1,297	I am overwh(elm)ed with laughter that I am ch(oak)ing, my face is wet with tears, so I need to w(ash) it, but (fir)st I have to set my video to tape an Ed(wood) (Woodwood) film and another called Taur-en-ferno. __________________ [B]THE LORD OF THE GRINS:THE ONE PARODY....A PARODY BETTER THAN THE RINGS OF POWER.

09-19-2006, 10:20 AM	#10
The Squatter of Amon Rûdh Spectre of Decay Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bar-en-Danwedh Posts: 2,178	The Aged Thespian I thought it was because he's 2,000 years old and has Latin as his first language (D+D+D+D). I feel strangely drawn to Lalwendë's (or is that Alan's?) theory about Entish pollenation, but I think it would still be rather random. Maybe the answer would be a swarm of trained bees, but that's beginning to sound weird and twisted, prompting my immediate silence. __________________ Man kenuva métim' andúne?

09-19-2006, 02:37 PM	#12
Morsul the Dark Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,448	I gt it it explans ent anatomy and why the ents need the wives each couple plants two seeds one ent one entwife the two sprouts grow togeth into one being( each sprout is a leg and once cmbined mae a body and arms and all that good stuff... __________________ Morsul the Resurrected

09-20-2006, 11:42 AM	#13
alatar Doubting Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Heaven's basement Posts: 2,466	One would think that 'something' had to take place between the Ents and the Entwives - the fact that there are no Entings due to the lack of Entwives makes me believe that the male and female had to be together to start a new life. Could it be - hey, this is Middle Earth - that the two lay hands on a tree that both had chosen and instill a soul or new life into the tree? This idea springs from Treebeard's lighting his hall and empowering the ent draughts and that he says that some trees became entish and some Ents became treeish. On the other hand, that would be like a shepherd choosing a sheep to become a...well...kid. Could it be simply that the Entwife plants an acorn in the earth and the Ent instills as above? __________________ There is naught that you can do, other than to resist, with hope or without it.

09-20-2006, 07:10 PM	#14
mark12_30 Stormdancer of Doom Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Elvish singing is not a thing to miss, in June under the stars Posts: 4,349	We could ask Treebeard about the details, but I suspect he has forgotten, burarum. __________________ ...down to the water to see the elves dance and sing upon the midsummer's eve.