Mouth of Sauron - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

09-08-2006, 04:18 PM

is it just me or did they get the mouth of sauron right?i think he was awesome.i dont know that i like aragorn killing him so easily tho.

Boromir88 · 09-08-2006, 04:33 PM

I really don't think the Mouth of Sauron was portrayed well. He was a man, most likely Black Numenorean, and was nearing or just passing the age of 100. I think Jackson took the title "Mouth of Sauron" too far, and too literally. He was the Mouth as he was Sauron's ambassador, and herald, not that all you could see was his awful dentistry.

Farael · 09-08-2006, 06:18 PM

While I think that PJ did an overal good job with the movies *ducks an assortment of rotten vegetables, eggs past their prime and hobbit feet hair furballs* Calm down!! I Said he did a good job with the MOVIES not with the BOOKS... he made movies based on LoTR and I think they were good, they weren't the books on a big screen though.

Anyway, what I meant to say is that I think that the Mouth of Sauron is just not a beliable character. All through the movies we see that even the orcs are something more than an extension of the pure evil that grows out of Mordor... yet the Mouth of Sauron seems to be nothing but well... the mouth of Sauron. I mean, he doesn't even have peep holes on that awful helmet of his. He can't see where he's going! And for crying out loud, he doesn't even seem to have a nose... even the Black Horsemen (aka Nazghul on horses) have the sense of smell going for them.

And about Aragorn killing him far too easily, I don't know... I mean, Mouth of Sauron was there to negotiate (or rather to taunt, but officially...) so he would not be expecting a stroke. Even if MoS was a "super powa cool dark wizzard" as long as chopping his head off kills him, an unexpected blow is just as effective as with anyone else.

Rune Son of Bjarne · 09-08-2006, 07:51 PM

I am with Boro on this one, the titel is taken a bit too far. This being said, it didn't realy bother me.

About him getting killed to easily. . . well, I am one of those who belive it was a major mistake killing him. Therefor I have never thought about that.

Holbytlass · 09-08-2006, 09:25 PM

If Peter Jackson was out to freak people he certainly won with me. MoS is definitely someone I would not want to pass on the street. I do like how his identity was covered with the helmet, something for us readers because we know that he doesn't even remember it.

To me, Aragorn does seem to lose some of his regal demeanure when he kills MoS. Despite what MoS says, he is an ambassador and what Aragorn did was reactive and not in control.

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Originally Posted by Mithalwen

But this incident seems fairley trivial in comparison with Aragorn killing an ambassador during parley.

From Disturbing scenes in a movie post#8. Exactly my feelings, it was bad form.

calandil · 09-09-2006, 11:20 AM

in the book he does not die ,as j.r.r said he was supposedly lost in the ruin of mordor,it does'nt imply he is dead

09-08-2006, 04:18 PM	#1
axemaster Guest Posts: n/a	Mouth of Sauron is it just me or did they get the mouth of sauron right?i think he was awesome.i dont know that i like aragorn killing him so easily tho.

09-08-2006, 04:33 PM	#2
Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,519	I really don't think the Mouth of Sauron was portrayed well. He was a man, most likely Black Numenorean, and was nearing or just passing the age of 100. I think Jackson took the title "Mouth of Sauron" too far, and too literally. He was the Mouth as he was Sauron's ambassador, and herald, not that all you could see was his awful dentistry. __________________ Fenris Penguin

09-08-2006, 06:18 PM	#3
Farael Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: In hospitals, call rooms and (rarely) my apartment. Posts: 1,538	While I think that PJ did an overal good job with the movies ducks an assortment of rotten vegetables, eggs past their prime and hobbit feet hair furballs Calm down!! I Said he did a good job with the MOVIES not with the BOOKS... he made movies based on LoTR and I think they were good, they weren't the books on a big screen though. Anyway, what I meant to say is that I think that the Mouth of Sauron is just not a beliable character. All through the movies we see that even the orcs are something more than an extension of the pure evil that grows out of Mordor... yet the Mouth of Sauron seems to be nothing but well... the mouth of Sauron. I mean, he doesn't even have peep holes on that awful helmet of his. He can't see where he's going! And for crying out loud, he doesn't even seem to have a nose... even the Black Horsemen (aka Nazghul on horses) have the sense of smell going for them. And about Aragorn killing him far too easily, I don't know... I mean, Mouth of Sauron was there to negotiate (or rather to taunt, but officially...) so he would not be expecting a stroke. Even if MoS was a "super powa cool dark wizzard" as long as chopping his head off kills him, an unexpected blow is just as effective as with anyone else. __________________ I prepared Explosive Runes this morning.

09-09-2006, 11:20 AM	#6
calandil Pile O'Bones Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 15	whats he playin at?? in the book he does not die ,as j.r.r said he was supposedly lost in the ruin of mordor,it does'nt imply he is dead