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08-30-2006, 12:45 PM | #1 | |
Shade of Carn Dűm
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Back to my basic reading roots.
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“Because Tolkien, like most storytellers in most societies throughout history, values stories as stories, not as essays in disguise.” - OSC I think the next time I read it, I shall, ‘Get back to my reading roots’ and enjoy it all over again. My experience will never be the same as anothers, but at least I'll have one.
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08-30-2006, 01:03 PM | #2 |
Raffish Rapscallion
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Great article there zif.
It's always a good reminder - not that there's anything wrong persay with doing the things you mentioned - but it certainly isn't the same way of reading as it was 'that first time.' And there's just something wonderful about reading books in an "escapist" (as he put it) mentality - it does allow you to achieve that escape from the world around you & transports you into the one of which you are reading. I've found this to be especially true with Tolkien's books. |
08-30-2006, 01:58 PM | #3 |
Ghost Prince of Cardolan
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I think you are so right zif, I may well have been doing what you say for nearly 30yrs now. The first time I read it, I could not put the thing down, I awoke in the morning with the book resting on my face and carried on. For one magical weekend in March 76, I was utterly transported to another place, one that felt so real, yet unreal. I desperately wanted to know what the end was, yet I dragged my feet every step of the way, soaking in the vision made real by the words. The first time was truly magical and has never been the same since. I now find when reading it, that I re-remember things that have slipped my mind (it is a fault of the old), and find new joy in understanding how other people see and explain things on this website.
Well done zif for a good thread.
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08-30-2006, 02:34 PM | #4 |
Twisted Taleswapper
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Ah..... the words of Mr. Card hold true for me.
When I read the world drops out around me, I become not just an observer, but a participant in everything that happens. Tolkien's world is so enthralling, you wish to know all the details, of this wonderful world he created. Mr Card's works are just as fascinating, he creates many worlds and places, everyone as in depth as the last. I find the only way to really read is to let go and enjoy the escapism it gives you, It's like dreaming when you are awake, very vivid and enthralling. No matter how many times I read a book, I always read it like it is the first time.
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08-30-2006, 02:29 PM | #5 | |
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By the time we finished it I felt I had 'studied' the thing so much that I never wanted to 'study' it again, or even read it again for a couple of years. Of course, I got some insights into the work, partly due to my own background study, partly due to reading the thoughts of others, but overall I kind of regret doing it. Its made me a bit negative about that whole approach (which see the recent 'Spun Candy' & 'Lord of the Bible' threads). In short, I think its a mistaken approach. When we first read the book we didn't analyse, break down, 'interpret' it. We were just swept along by the story. That's how it managed to work its magic on us. There is, I suppose, always a desire to know more about something we love. We want to know more about the sources, about what inspired Tolkien, how he could have managed to create this other world which is so 'real' to us. We find out that he was inspired by the Eddas, the Mabinogion, Beowulf; we maybe turn to those same sources (but rarely find what we expected - they aren't Middle-earth). I've said it before, but I'll repeat myself. We need to leave our baggage on the threshhold as much as we can, forget trying to discover 'sources', interpreting it in the light of psychology or comparative myth, stop trying to find Biblical analogies, allegories of WWII, political messages or anything else. Let Frodo be Frodo, Gandalf be Gandalf & Middle-earth be simply Middle-earth - just as it was when we first found it. Its a bit more difficult the second, third, or even twentieth, time around, but its worth the effort. What we gain from a 'serious' reading is rarely worth having - in my opinion, of course.
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08-31-2006, 10:50 PM | #6 | |
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I wish I did this for the first time I read LotR and the Sil... at first, I thought Tolkien was contradicting himself because I found some stuff I thought were allegories. This was some three years ago, and then due to my time-eating (academic) life and because I read works by other authors I did not have much time for Tolkien. Then just some time ago I decided to reread the Sil again, and the allegories I thought I saw I let disapear. I thought again that that time, it was like reading and appreciating Tolkien again. |
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08-30-2006, 08:13 PM | #7 | |
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leaf, tree, root
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