The Silmarillion Survivor - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Anguirel · 10-13-2005, 12:30 AM

Welcome to the most epic reality TV show of the First Age!

A few ground rules:

1. To represent the long passage of time and generations in the Silmarillion, tribes will come and go at certain points, and deaths will sometimes occur as well as evictions.

2. I will be describing the challenges and their results. Vote with an eye to what needs to be achieved. A failed challenge can have dire and radical consequences...

3. The Silmarillion is a substantial work. In keeping with this, all votes without some reasoning are discounted.

Right. It's Day One in Valinor, and Feanor has just created the Silmarilli...

The contestants:

Tribes

VALAR

Manwe
Melkor
Ulmo
Aule
Tulkas
Namo aka Mandos
Orome
Lorien
Varda
Yavanna
Nienna
Este
Vana
Vaire
Nessa

NOLDOR

Finwe
Feanor
Fingolfin
Finarfin
Maedhros
Maglor
Celegorm
Caranthir
Curufin
Amrod
Amras
Fingon
Turgon
Aredhel
Finrod
Artanis aka Galadriel
Orodreth
Aegnor
Angrod

TELERI

Olwe

MAIA

Osse
Uinen
Eonwe
Huan
Olorin
Tilion
Arien

VANYAR

Ingwe
Indis
Amarie

FORCES OF EVIL

Ungoliant

The first challenge-HORTICULTURE. Look after the island's source of light, the Two Trees. Make sure they're tended and watered properly and that no vandals can hurt them.

EDIT: Voting closes at 9 GMT, which is I think 3:00 or 4:00 EST...anyone who keeps a running tally gets a gold star from me!

**The Saucepan Man** · 10-13-2005, 03:17 AM

Hmm. The nature of the task makes one contestant in particular a candidate for eviction. But it is always possible that her skills will be needed later on.

Who was it that declared the day of feasting that meant that the Trees were left unguarded? Manwe, wasn't it? Perhaps we should consider voting him off so that the other contestants can get on with the job of guarding the Trees without the distraction of some pointless feast.

WaynetheGoblin · 10-13-2005, 05:15 AM

++ungoliant get rid of the evil.

Anguirel · 10-13-2005, 06:25 AM

I suppose your comment just about counts as reasoning, Wayne...

A most original idea, Saucie. I think you'll find Melkor supports it...

I fear people are worn out by LOTR Survivor. The ratings for this first series are troublingly low! Come on, one and all, roll up, roll up...

Lalaith · 10-13-2005, 06:33 AM

Dear moderator, I'm not quite clear as to your wishes. Would you like us to propose eviction candidates immediately or did you intend us to invent some dramatic incidents first?

Anguirel · 10-13-2005, 06:36 AM

No, sorry, I should have made that clear. You just vote for contestants to leave, with reasoning, as normal. I'll then write up the results of your choice and how the challenges go.

IE, I get to do the creative writing, you do the politicking! Rather like a Werewolf game, ho ho...

Basically, Saucie's post is a model of what you should be doing...thinking about the challenge as well as about your own opinions, and deciding accordingly.

Have fun...

**The Saucepan Man** · 10-13-2005, 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by me

But it is always possible that her skills will be needed later on.

Just to add some further thoughts on that comment.

It seems to me that what Anguirel is presenting us with here is a series of "problems" which, in effect, need to be solved. So what we need to do is work through the problems (either in co-operation or - more likely - in a series of loose alliances and mutually antagonistic groups

) in order to come up with the best solution. My preminary reaction to the "problem" which Ang has set us today is that the obvious solution may not necessarily be the best one.

arcticstorm · 10-13-2005, 06:37 AM

If this is what we are intended to do, I agree with Sauce that ++Manwe 's feast seems to be the most dangerous thing to the trees.

Eonwe · 10-13-2005, 06:40 AM

well, well, i guess i will make my survivor debute.

Lets see, the first part is tended and watered properly. that would be yavanna's business, i believe. and the next, protected and free from vanals, would fall on orome and tulkas. so i propose that first off, we detail these three for 24/7 watch about the trees. then we can think of striking at the vanals themselves at our leisure.

as for the vanals, the obvious answer (as wyane put it) is get rid of the evil (aka melkor and ungoliant). but i ask you, what fun is an island with no Dark Lord to fight, eh? so manwe might be a good choise.

Anguirel · 10-13-2005, 06:44 AM

Show host's fair warning: if Melkor goes too early, you may find certain Valar suffer attacks of megalomania...

10-13-2005, 12:30 AM	#1
Anguirel Byronic Brand Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The 1590s Posts: 2,778	The Silmarillion Survivor Welcome to the most epic reality TV show of the First Age! A few ground rules: 1. To represent the long passage of time and generations in the Silmarillion, tribes will come and go at certain points, and deaths will sometimes occur as well as evictions. 2. I will be describing the challenges and their results. Vote with an eye to what needs to be achieved. A failed challenge can have dire and radical consequences... 3. The Silmarillion is a substantial work. In keeping with this, all votes without some reasoning are discounted. Right. It's Day One in Valinor, and Feanor has just created the Silmarilli... The contestants: Tribes VALAR Manwe Melkor Ulmo Aule Tulkas Namo aka Mandos Orome Lorien Varda Yavanna Nienna Este Vana Vaire Nessa NOLDOR Finwe Feanor Fingolfin Finarfin Maedhros Maglor Celegorm Caranthir Curufin Amrod Amras Fingon Turgon Aredhel Finrod Artanis aka Galadriel Orodreth Aegnor Angrod TELERI Olwe MAIA Osse Uinen Eonwe Huan Olorin Tilion Arien VANYAR Ingwe Indis Amarie FORCES OF EVIL Ungoliant The first challenge-HORTICULTURE. Look after the island's source of light, the Two Trees. Make sure they're tended and watered properly and that no vandals can hurt them. EDIT: Voting closes at 9 GMT, which is I think 3:00 or 4:00 EST...anyone who keeps a running tally gets a gold star from me! __________________ Among the friendly dead, being bad at games did not seem to matter -Il Lupo Fenriso Last edited by Anguirel; 10-13-2005 at 12:45 AM.

10-13-2005, 03:17 AM	#2
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Hmm. The nature of the task makes one contestant in particular a candidate for eviction. But it is always possible that her skills will be needed later on. Who was it that declared the day of feasting that meant that the Trees were left unguarded? Manwe, wasn't it? Perhaps we should consider voting him off so that the other contestants can get on with the job of guarding the Trees without the distraction of some pointless feast. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

10-13-2005, 05:15 AM	#3
WaynetheGoblin Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: far far away Posts: 275	++ungoliant get rid of the evil. __________________ if your happy im happy if your sad im sad if you jump of a cliff i watch

10-13-2005, 06:25 AM	#4
Anguirel Byronic Brand Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The 1590s Posts: 2,778	I suppose your comment just about counts as reasoning, Wayne... A most original idea, Saucie. I think you'll find Melkor supports it... I fear people are worn out by LOTR Survivor. The ratings for this first series are troublingly low! Come on, one and all, roll up, roll up... __________________ Among the friendly dead, being bad at games did not seem to matter -Il Lupo Fenriso

10-13-2005, 06:33 AM	#5
Lalaith Blithe Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,779	Dear moderator, I'm not quite clear as to your wishes. Would you like us to propose eviction candidates immediately or did you intend us to invent some dramatic incidents first? __________________ Out went the candle, and we were left darkling

10-13-2005, 06:36 AM	#6
Anguirel Byronic Brand Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The 1590s Posts: 2,778	No, sorry, I should have made that clear. You just vote for contestants to leave, with reasoning, as normal. I'll then write up the results of your choice and how the challenges go. IE, I get to do the creative writing, you do the politicking! Rather like a Werewolf game, ho ho... Basically, Saucie's post is a model of what you should be doing...thinking about the challenge as well as about your own opinions, and deciding accordingly. Have fun... __________________ Among the friendly dead, being bad at games did not seem to matter -Il Lupo Fenriso

10-13-2005, 06:37 AM	#8
arcticstorm Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Johnson Bible College: Knoxville, TN Posts: 464	If this is what we are intended to do, I agree with Sauce that ++Manwe 's feast seems to be the most dangerous thing to the trees.

10-13-2005, 06:40 AM	#9
Eonwe Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: In a world grown ever smaller. Posts: 678	well, well, i guess i will make my survivor debute. Lets see, the first part is tended and watered properly. that would be yavanna's business, i believe. and the next, protected and free from vanals, would fall on orome and tulkas. so i propose that first off, we detail these three for 24/7 watch about the trees. then we can think of striking at the vanals themselves at our leisure. as for the vanals, the obvious answer (as wyane put it) is get rid of the evil (aka melkor and ungoliant). but i ask you, what fun is an island with no Dark Lord to fight, eh? so manwe might be a good choise. __________________ I've got bridge club on Wednesday, Archery on Thursday, Dancing on a Friday night!

10-13-2005, 06:44 AM	#10
Anguirel Byronic Brand Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The 1590s Posts: 2,778	Show host's fair warning: if Melkor goes too early, you may find certain Valar suffer attacks of megalomania... __________________ Among the friendly dead, being bad at games did not seem to matter -Il Lupo Fenriso