The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum


Visit The *EVEN NEWER* Barrow-Downs Photo Page

Go Back   The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum > Middle-Earth Discussions > The Movies
User Name
Password
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-11-2005, 03:35 PM   #1
Neurion
Shade of Carn Dûm
 
Neurion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Standing amidst the slaughter I have wreaked upon the orcs
Posts: 258
Neurion has just left Hobbiton.
White Tree Faramir's armour...... vs Boromir's

What do you suppose might be the reason that Faramir posseses a much more ornate, custom-made suit of armour than his older and more honoured brother? Faramir's armour is similar to the common soldiers' but finer, and with various embellishments that are meant to be personal heraldric symbols, such as the twin ravens on the greaves and vambraces. These can also be seen in the hilt of his sword.

On the other hand, Boromir's harness consists of a standard soldier's cuirass and arm defenses, but minus the gorget, and a maille skirt, with no helmet or other elements of armour.
__________________
____________________________________

"And a cold voice rang forth from the blade.

Yea, I will drink thy blood, that I may forget the blood of Beleg my master, and of Brandir slain unjustly. I will slay thee swiftly."
Neurion is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2005, 04:50 PM   #2
Neurion
Shade of Carn Dûm
 
Neurion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Standing amidst the slaughter I have wreaked upon the orcs
Posts: 258
Neurion has just left Hobbiton.
White Tree

Twenty views, and no responses?
__________________
____________________________________

"And a cold voice rang forth from the blade.

Yea, I will drink thy blood, that I may forget the blood of Beleg my master, and of Brandir slain unjustly. I will slay thee swiftly."
Neurion is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2005, 07:02 PM   #3
The Perky Ent
Maniacal Mage
 
The Perky Ent's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Setting sail for Umbar, with Firefoot at my side!
Posts: 3,297
The Perky Ent has just left Hobbiton.
Send a message via AIM to The Perky Ent
This icon shall be waiting in the void until I complete my 'horn of gondor' icon

Cause Boromir has the horn
__________________
'But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.'
The Perky Ent is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2005, 10:16 AM   #4
Mithalwen
Pilgrim Soul
 
Mithalwen's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle...
Posts: 9,458
Mithalwen is lost in the dark paths of Moria.Mithalwen is lost in the dark paths of Moria.Mithalwen is lost in the dark paths of Moria.Mithalwen is lost in the dark paths of Moria.
Boromir didn't actually travel in uniform though did he? And would not have sought battle journeying alone so he is unlikely to have wanted full armour. Of course in the book he has no armour and is dressed for riding. If he had armour I guess he would have discarded it when he lost his horse. I doubt he would have taken precious and ceremonial armour on such a journey, or anything else that woud draw attention to a lone traveller. As a backpacker, it is a principle that holds true now - don't take anything you can't bear to lose or that will make you a conspicuous and a target for thieves.....
__________________
“But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.”

Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace
Mithalwen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-20-2005, 06:18 AM   #5
Neurion
Shade of Carn Dûm
 
Neurion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Standing amidst the slaughter I have wreaked upon the orcs
Posts: 258
Neurion has just left Hobbiton.
White Tree

Those are good points, but I meant his armour in the Osgiliath scene.
__________________
____________________________________

"And a cold voice rang forth from the blade.

Yea, I will drink thy blood, that I may forget the blood of Beleg my master, and of Brandir slain unjustly. I will slay thee swiftly."
Neurion is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2005, 01:34 PM   #6
Beanamir of Gondor
Shade of Carn Dûm
 
Beanamir of Gondor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: the Shadow Gallery
Posts: 276
Beanamir of Gondor has just left Hobbiton.
Eye

... Perhaps Boromir's battle armour was less fancy because it was worn from so much battle and experience, and because he lost half of the cool accoutrements from so much usage, eh?
Besides, the Perky Ent is right. Who needs sweet armour when you've got the horn of Gondor? =D
__________________
The answer to life is no longer 42. It's 4 8 15 16 23... 42.

"I only lent you my body; you lent me your dream."
Beanamir of Gondor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2005, 01:21 PM   #7
SteveS
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Shield

Hi everyone, I am new here, will post an intro in a moment. Though this may not be directly related to the topic, I am wondering what thickness Boromir's armor was:

robe - probably not

light leather armor

medium chain armor

heavy plate mail

Any help would be appreciated; thanks,
Steve
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2005, 05:13 PM   #8
Captain Grishnahk
Wight
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 106
Captain Grishnahk has just left Hobbiton.
The Eye

The only reason i can come up with is that Boromir's armor was disigned to travel. Perhaps this is his traveleing armor...? If you see in a TTT EV flashback when he is still in Gondor. He his heavily clad in silver armor.

Hope that helps...

-Cap.
__________________
"Faithless is he who says farewell when the road darkens."

--J.R.R. Tolkien
Captain Grishnahk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-2006, 11:25 AM   #9
Snowdog
Emperor of the South Pole
 
Snowdog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: The Western Shore of Lake Evendim
Posts: 632
Snowdog is a guest of Tom Bombadil.
I know I'm late and its all been said but tough.

On this difference in the brothers' armor...



Faramir, and that of his command which were the Rangers of Ithilien were prepared to move quickly and quietly in the woods of Ithilien setting anbushes and such and doing their best at not being seen or heard.

Boromir on the other hand commanded the garrison of Osgoliath and so he and his men had the full battle armor that would come in handy in the direct close-in fighting.

Later, when Faramir and his men was summoned to Osgoliath as emergency reinforcements for the Osgoliath garrison, they wouldn't take the time to get 'suited up' in their armor (which Faramir later did for his suicide ride from Minas Tirith).

Also, when Boromir went to Rivendell, he was dressed so:



More suited for travel, but still quite functional.

And then you have their own personal preferences of adornment.
Snowdog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-17-2006, 03:40 AM   #10
calandil
Pile O'Bones
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 15
calandil has just left Hobbiton.
Tolkien he was a ranger of ithilien

he cannot walk around in the woods wearing nice shiny armor
calandil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-23-2006, 09:51 PM   #11
MatthewM
Ghost Prince of Cardolan
 
MatthewM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: New York
Posts: 628
MatthewM has just left Hobbiton.
Send a message via AIM to MatthewM
Tolkien

Quote:
Originally Posted by calandil
he cannot walk around in the woods wearing nice shiny armor
LOL the simplest responses are always the funniest.

And indeed this is so. That, and given the fact we never have a description of Boromir's actual armour at Gondor, it's safe to say PJ just took what he thought Gondorian armour to look like and put it on Boromir in the Osgiliath scene. There's no real proof to why he made the suits of armour different.
__________________
"Loud and clear it sounds in the valleys of the hills...and then let all the foes of Gondor flee!" -Boromir, The Fellowship of the Ring
MatthewM is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:28 AM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.