Who's your favourite hobbit... - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Fordim Hedgethistle · 07-18-2005, 01:23 PM

...and why?

This one is especially for Eomer of the Rohirrim. Let's find out who the greatest hobbit was, and why.

Bêthberry · 07-18-2005, 01:27 PM

And just where is Rosie Cotton? "They also serve, who only stand and wait." Well, not that she was standing all the time, but certainly she contributed.

davem · 07-18-2005, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Bêthberry

And just where is Rosie Cotton? "They also serve, who only stand and wait." Well, not that she was standing all the time, but certainly she contributed.

Or Lobelia????

Sorry, Fordim - another abject failure, poll-wise

Fordim Hedgethistle · 07-18-2005, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by davem

Or Lobelia????

Sorry, Fordim - another abject failure, poll-wise

At least I'm out there, trying my best to solve these thorny issues by getting some good hard polling data!

back at you.

piosenniel · 07-18-2005, 01:40 PM

I'm voting for Fatty Bolger.

~*~ Pio

Estelyn Telcontar · 07-18-2005, 01:44 PM

*Esty raises a hand for poor, forgotten Folco Boffin...

Mithalwen · 07-18-2005, 01:45 PM

Used to be Merry, but I admire Sam in many ways...

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 07-18-2005, 01:55 PM

I'm going to have to think long and hard about this.

Thanks Fordim!

Feanor of the Peredhil · 07-18-2005, 01:58 PM

It's Merry because I took a minute to imagine myself hanging out with each hobbit listed one by one.

Frodo: I will take the Ring to Mordor.
Me: And I was proud of myself for graduating high school... he saved the world. Immediately makes me feel life I've done nothing of import, self-esteem plummets. He's great and all, but his level is unobtainable for me and I'm not sure I'm a big enough person to "like him as a person" despite it.

Pippen: *splashes water all over the floor*
Me: Please tell me you plan on cleaning that up. Though I like him a lot, his energy and immaturity (pre-ending) would annoy me in RL.

Bilbo: I'm not sure... he reminds me too much of my grandfather (in a good way), but that means that I respect him more than I "like" him.

Sam: Too selfless, much like Frodo.

Merry: He just seems so normal. He's very clever (getting Sam to spy, friends with Maggot, etc), very brave (Witch King), very loving (Theoden, Frodo), and has a sense of humor. He's accomplished, smart, but he's just a normal guy, and that's cool.

I'd have preferred the Gaffer, but I'll just blame Fordim for that one.

HerenIstarion · 07-20-2005, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by piosenniel

I'm voting for Fatty Bolger.

~*~ Pio

My feelings exactly!

Fordim, you are good at polls, but they are always almost perfect!

Meaning, where is Fatty (my favourite, as we are so much alike), where is Lobelia? Where are numerous Brockhouses, not to mention Proudfoots/feet?!

Given the current poll, though, I cast my vote on Sam for his loyalty and his hope beyond hope which came true. I wish I could be that steadfast.

Firefoot · 07-18-2005, 01:32 PM

Frodo.

Frodo has always been my favorite hobbit (character!). I immediately latched onto Frodo when I first read LotR, and further readings, thoughts, analyses, discussions, etc. have only served to confirm that. His actions and choices have always intrigued me.

And his name is cool.

Folwren · 07-20-2005, 12:40 PM

I vote for Samwise!! Why? Goodness, if any of you had any sense you'd figure out why.

Sam has just about all the good qualities that the other hobbits have - he's humorous, brave, honest, selfless, and completely down to earth. He's an excellent poet, and he loved his Gaffer! So, mormegil, I totally agree with your first post concerning Sam.

(Except, maybe Bilbo wasn't a senile old coot...)

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Originally posted by the guy who be short:
Grr...

Bilbo wasn't always a coot you know. He was young for far longer than the average person (or hobbit)! And Sam probably went senile too... yeah... and did he get to the Und(r)ying Lands? No, didn't think so.

Conclusion: Bilbo Adventurer>Samwise Halfwit

...Sam certainly wasn't a Halfwit.

By the bye, he did make it to the Undying Lands, according to the Appendice.

the guy who be short · 07-20-2005, 02:13 PM

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Actually, Sam did go, after the death of Rosie, it's in the appendices.

Ah, but you didn't read the question properly! Undrying Lands, said I.

In any case, Bilbo got there first.

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Sam certainly wasn't a Halfwit

This is in the Appendices too. Sam is apparently Old English for Half, thus Half-wise.

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He can't even think of a respectable riddle. I mean what kind of question is "what have I got in my pockets?"?

He's inventive and innovative.

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Then he lies to Gandalf.

Everybody lies to Gandalf, poor sod.

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oh ya a thief too.

Professional burglar, if you please!

Now that the defence is sorted, the attack may begin.

Samwise is detestable. He symbolises hypocrisy in its strongest form. He rises from a peasant class family to become a member of the nobility. And then what does he do for the peasantly? Nothing! *spits*

And obsessed with cooking like he is... you can't trust hobbits with such bad cuisine.

mormegil · 07-20-2005, 02:39 PM

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Professional burglar, if you please!

Professional burglar indeed! A thief is still a thief no matter the name he gives himself.

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Samwise is detestable. He symbolises hypocrisy in its strongest form. He rises from a peasant class family to become a member of the nobility. And then what does he do for the peasantly? Nothing! *spits*

Oh I must have been mistaken in my judgment of character. I thought that giving away all but on grain of his blessed soil so that the shire could grow beautiful again was altruistic. But seemingly it was to further his political career.

Let's not forget that Sam never desired the spot light whereas Bilbo seemed rather obessed with being the center of attention. Writing verse about Elrond's family in front of him and then having the nerve to recite it. Doing that whole party thing so he could be remembered. Seems a bit arrogant to me.

the guy who be short · 07-20-2005, 02:49 PM

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Professional burglar indeed! A thief is still a thief no matter the name he gives himself.

So to steal from an evil dragon is... wrong? The Arkenstone cannot be seen as theft, of course, being stolen to avert a needless war.

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Oh I must have been mistaken in my judgment of character. I thought that giving away all but on grain of his blessed soil so that the shire could grow beautiful again was altruistic. But seemingly it was to further his political career.

How do you think he became Mayor seven times in a row? Bah. It's all about politics.

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Let's not forget that Sam never desired the spot light whereas Bilbo seemed rather obessed with being the center of attention. Writing verse about Elrond's family in front of him and then having the nerve to recite it. Doing that whole party thing so he could be remembered. Seems a bit arrogant to me.

Bilbo was enigmatic, a wonderful trait. and Sam, not desiring the spotlight? Mr Pay-attention-to-me!-I-have-thirteen-children? Mr Running-off-to-adventure-abandoning-his-gaffer? Mr Mayor-seven-times-in-a-row-so-invite-me-to-your-parties?

mormegil · 07-20-2005, 03:02 PM

Soon, TGWBS, I worry that you will start calling little Biblo your precious.

Biblo view's are far too simplistic (ie elves singing tra-la-la-lally). Remember that the account we have of his deeds are from his own pen. Of course he will slant them to make him look favorable. "No I didn't steal the Arkenstone I merely tried to prevent war".

He saw a pitiable creature and what did he do? He took the thing it desired most and deprived that creature of it. I am of course speaking of Throin and the Dragon. Let's not forget what he did to Gollum too. I see a disturbing pattern here.

He kept the accursed ring for himself until he found out how personally dangerous it was and what did he do with it? Gave it to his heir and said here's my problem you deal with it!

And in defense of Sam wanting attention you know you are grasping at straws. He was only mayor because he knew he could help the peasant class.

Edit: intentional misspelling of Biblo's name

Captain Grishnahk · 09-19-2005, 08:14 PM

I chose Sam, but personaly my favorite hobbit is Smeagol. My code name for mostly all my other sites that i go too is Smeagol's Voice. Because i can do (I am told) the best Smeagol voice...

-The Captain

ps. the others are simply captain grishnahk. But this is the best lotr site i have seen yet... Keep up the good work Barrow Wight!

09-29-2005, 03:06 PM

Sam's my favorite hobbit. He always seems to amuse me.

07-18-2005, 01:23 PM	#1
Fordim Hedgethistle Gibbering Gibbet Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Beyond cloud nine Posts: 1,844	Who's your favourite hobbit... ...and why? This one is especially for Eomer of the Rohirrim. Let's find out who the greatest hobbit was, and why. __________________ Scribbling scrabbling.

07-18-2005, 01:40 PM	#5
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	I'm voting for Fatty Bolger. ~*~ Pio __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.

07-18-2005, 01:44 PM	#6
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	*Esty raises a hand for poor, forgotten Folco Boffin... __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

07-18-2005, 01:45 PM	#7
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,458	Used to be Merry, but I admire Sam in many ways... __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

07-18-2005, 01:55 PM	#8
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	I'm going to have to think long and hard about this. Thanks Fordim! __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

View Poll Results: My favourite hobbit is:
Frodo	6	9.84%
Bilbo	12	19.67%
Pippin	13	21.31%
Merry	12	19.67%
Sam	18	29.51%
Voters: 61. You may not vote on this poll

07-18-2005, 01:27 PM	#2
Bêthberry Cryptic Aura Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 5,997	And just where is Rosie Cotton? "They also serve, who only stand and wait." Well, not that she was standing all the time, but certainly she contributed.

07-18-2005, 01:58 PM	#9
Feanor of the Peredhil La Belle Dame sans Merci Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: perpetual uncertainty Posts: 5,517	It's Merry because I took a minute to imagine myself hanging out with each hobbit listed one by one. Frodo: I will take the Ring to Mordor. Me: And I was proud of myself for graduating high school... he saved the world. Immediately makes me feel life I've done nothing of import, self-esteem plummets. He's great and all, but his level is unobtainable for me and I'm not sure I'm a big enough person to "like him as a person" despite it. Pippen: splashes water all over the floor Me: Please tell me you plan on cleaning that up. Though I like him a lot, his energy and immaturity (pre-ending) would annoy me in RL. Bilbo: I'm not sure... he reminds me too much of my grandfather (in a good way), but that means that I respect him more than I "like" him. Sam: Too selfless, much like Frodo. Merry: He just seems so normal. He's very clever (getting Sam to spy, friends with Maggot, etc), very brave (Witch King), very loving (Theoden, Frodo), and has a sense of humor. He's accomplished, smart, but he's just a normal guy, and that's cool. I'd have preferred the Gaffer, but I'll just blame Fordim for that one. __________________ peace

07-18-2005, 01:32 PM	#11
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	Frodo. Frodo has always been my favorite hobbit (character!). I immediately latched onto Frodo when I first read LotR, and further readings, thoughts, analyses, discussions, etc. have only served to confirm that. His actions and choices have always intrigued me. And his name is cool.

07-20-2005, 03:02 PM	#16
mormegil Maundering Mage Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,648	Soon, TGWBS, I worry that you will start calling little Biblo your precious. Biblo view's are far too simplistic (ie elves singing tra-la-la-lally). Remember that the account we have of his deeds are from his own pen. Of course he will slant them to make him look favorable. "No I didn't steal the Arkenstone I merely tried to prevent war". He saw a pitiable creature and what did he do? He took the thing it desired most and deprived that creature of it. I am of course speaking of Throin and the Dragon. Let's not forget what he did to Gollum too. I see a disturbing pattern here. He kept the accursed ring for himself until he found out how personally dangerous it was and what did he do with it? Gave it to his heir and said here's my problem you deal with it! And in defense of Sam wanting attention you know you are grasping at straws. He was only mayor because he knew he could help the peasant class. Edit: intentional misspelling of Biblo's name __________________ “I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo. "So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.” Last edited by mormegil; 07-20-2005 at 03:18 PM.

09-19-2005, 08:14 PM	#17
Captain Grishnahk Wight Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 106	I chose Sam, but personaly my favorite hobbit is Smeagol. My code name for mostly all my other sites that i go too is Smeagol's Voice. Because i can do (I am told) the best Smeagol voice... -The Captain ps. the others are simply captain grishnahk. But this is the best lotr site i have seen yet... Keep up the good work Barrow Wight! __________________ "Faithless is he who says farewell when the road darkens." --J.R.R. Tolkien

09-29-2005, 03:06 PM	#18
GhastlyInnocence Guest Posts: n/a	Sam's my favorite hobbit. He always seems to amuse me.