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06-29-2005, 10:46 PM | #1 |
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Isildur
Can someone tell me if Tolkien has ever made any references to Isildur's character?
I mean we all know he fell for the ring, but was he proud? Ok, he was a Numenorean, a valiant one and deserved pride, but was he arrogant like Denethor or Boromir? Or was his attraction to the ring a result of the grief he had experienced as a result of his losses of his father, brother and destruction of Minas Ithil and Ithilien? I have always imagined him to be of Denethor's character, at a higher level, far seeing as befit a Numenorean of royal line, but arrogant and to an extant, rash. Such a person would easily have been swayed by the evil of the ring. I always thought Anarion was always the good one, though I could have been influenced by Boromir-Faramir story. One can never tell I guess, since Anarion was not present when Isildur cut off the ring. History has never made much mention of Anarion. But after reading Brian Crawford's Isildur which portrays him as an understanding, thoughtful and a great leader, I am confused. So help me out guys. I haven't read the HoME series yet. |
06-29-2005, 11:10 PM | #2 |
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You would probably find "The Disaster of the Gladden Fields" in The Unfinished Tales to be very interesting. Much of Isilsur's personality is revealed in that story.
I won't spoil the particulars of the story for you, but suffice to say that Isildur had a change of opinion regarding his pride and the Ring before the end of his life... I suppose it might parallel Boromir in a way, at least so far as realizing a mistake.
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06-30-2005, 12:34 AM | #3 |
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Yes I have read that part, but it still does not say of what character he might have been before the ring came to him. I men did he consider himself above all others, and have a dislike towards the elves feeling that they have no right to proclaim themselves superior. There is another character I might refer to, that is Ar Pharazon.
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06-30-2005, 03:33 AM | #4 |
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I don't suppose that Isildur's the Ar-Pharazon type of guy--even before he took the Ring. The Disaster of the Gladden Fields tells what kind of father he was--he seems to be compasssionate enough to not be compared to Tar-Calion. He sent his esquire away with what remained of his daddy's sword... a proud man wouldn't have done that in my opinion.
And I suppose he's the compassionate great leader Brian Crawford seems to think--maybe the Ring has just partially corrupted him. Try to reread the Disaster over again; it might help. |
07-01-2005, 02:25 PM | #5 |
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The document he writes gives some clues..... I guess he was more or less normal until the ring's effects kicked in. Maybe a bit like Boromir....
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