Did the Evenstar break? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Assasin · 04-13-2005, 04:27 PM

In the Return of the King extended edition, when Aragorn tries looking into the palantir, the Evenstar breaks, and then reapears in the next scene. I know PJ would not have made a mistake like that, so I ask, what's the point?

Dûrbelethwen · 04-13-2005, 05:39 PM

I was not sure about that either. It seemed that maybe it was a vision like in his dream eariler in the movie. You said that Aragorn was wearing the Evenstar in the next scene, but I thought the whole purpose of the scene showing Aragorn ride away was to show that he nolonger had it.

The Only Real Estel · 04-13-2005, 06:11 PM

It might have just been a vision, but if it was supposed to be a scene that happened in 'real life', I would not be suprised if PJ had slipped up. Given the massive amount of material he had to deal with, I wouldn't be suprised at all if he shot Aragorn wearing it, then inserted the scene in the EE without bothering/remembering to edit it out in the coming scenes. Or than again Aragorn might not even have it after that scene, I know I can't swear either way.

Kath · 04-14-2005, 10:08 AM

I'm not so sure that he would have left it in if the idea was that it had been broken as they were pretty good at catching those. For example in the scene at the Grey Havens where Sean Astin forgot to put his waistcoat back on after a break they reshot it to make sure it was continuous.

I think that is just a vision shown to him by Sauron, as there do seem to be a few of those involving Aragorn and Arwen in the film so it fits.

The Only Real Estel · 04-14-2005, 10:24 AM

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For example in the scene at the Grey Havens where Sean Astin forgot to put his waistcoat back on after a break they reshot it to make sure it was continuous.

True, although if you look closely (I think it's the last shot of Sam watching the boat leave while Merry & Pippin are crying in the background) you'll see that they did leave in a shot of a vest-less Sam. But on the whole they're pretty good about those things.

Kath · 04-14-2005, 10:27 AM

For managing only the odd mistake out of 3 huge films I think they did pretty well!
But I'm just here again because of something Assasin said right at the beginning. I thought that they focused on Aragorns chest and that demonstrated that the pendant wasn't there, ot am I missing something?

04-13-2005, 04:27 PM	#1
Assasin Wight Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In a desert. Posts: 142	Did the Evenstar break? In the Return of the King extended edition, when Aragorn tries looking into the palantir, the Evenstar breaks, and then reapears in the next scene. I know PJ would not have made a mistake like that, so I ask, what's the point? __________________ Death is as light as a feather, duty is as heavy as a mountain.

04-14-2005, 10:08 AM	#4
Kath Everlasting Whiteness Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Perusing the laminated book of dreams Posts: 4,533	I'm not so sure that he would have left it in if the idea was that it had been broken as they were pretty good at catching those. For example in the scene at the Grey Havens where Sean Astin forgot to put his waistcoat back on after a break they reshot it to make sure it was continuous. I think that is just a vision shown to him by Sauron, as there do seem to be a few of those involving Aragorn and Arwen in the film so it fits. __________________ “If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.”

04-14-2005, 10:27 AM	#6
Kath Everlasting Whiteness Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Perusing the laminated book of dreams Posts: 4,533	For managing only the odd mistake out of 3 huge films I think they did pretty well! But I'm just here again because of something Assasin said right at the beginning. I thought that they focused on Aragorns chest and that demonstrated that the pendant wasn't there, ot am I missing something? __________________ “If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.”

04-13-2005, 05:39 PM	#2
Dûrbelethwen Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 80	I was not sure about that either. It seemed that maybe it was a vision like in his dream eariler in the movie. You said that Aragorn was wearing the Evenstar in the next scene, but I thought the whole purpose of the scene showing Aragorn ride away was to show that he nolonger had it.

04-13-2005, 06:11 PM	#3
The Only Real Estel Raffish Rapscallion Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Far from the 'Downs, it seems :-( Posts: 2,835	It might have just been a vision, but if it was supposed to be a scene that happened in 'real life', I would not be suprised if PJ had slipped up. Given the massive amount of material he had to deal with, I wouldn't be suprised at all if he shot Aragorn wearing it, then inserted the scene in the EE without bothering/remembering to edit it out in the coming scenes. Or than again Aragorn might not even have it after that scene, I know I can't swear either way.