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Old 11-18-2004, 05:14 PM   #1
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Silmaril Silmarillion Movies

It is highly unlikely that The Silmarillion is going to be made into a big Hollywood feature film anytime soon. So, myself and the fine people of the PPC Board have come up with the following idea.

The Silmarillion Film Project

Our plan is to write, draw, voice, and score four movies depicting the events in the Silmarillion. The films will (tentatively) be titled:
  • The Fall of the Noldor
  • The Lay of Leithian
  • The War of Wrath
  • The Tale of Turin
There will also possibly be a fifth, about the Akallabeth.

But there are far too few people on the board now. So, to all you artists, actors, and musicians out there on the 'Downs, we need your help! Check out the site, and see if there's anything you can/want to do to lend a hand. We're in need of all sorts, so don't be shy!

And, if you don't want to be directly involved, you can post thoughts, opinions, and ideas here. Is there a favourite scene you want to ask about? Any suggestions for design or music? Let us know here!

Thank you very much,

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Old 11-18-2004, 08:01 PM   #2
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Good gracious! You certainly are very brave to even consider such an undertaking. I think that a movie about Beren and Luthien would be quite interesting.

I think that James Cameron or Howard Shore would be great composers for the score.
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Old 11-18-2004, 10:51 PM   #3
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Four movies won't do, The Silmarillion just won't pull in audencieces like LOTR, nobody outside of book fans really care, sad but true. If it did make it into a movie (or two) alot will be cut but what I think needs to stay is The story of the Noldor, Luthien and Beren,The fall of Gondolion and the war of the wrath. I don't know why, but I always pictured Feanor as a very ****ed of Tom Cruise (Like in The Last Samarai) and Meaglor as Tom Welling (from Smallville, the less he says, the better)
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Old 05-13-2005, 04:27 PM   #4
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[QUOTE=Feamel]Four movies won't do, The Silmarillion just won't pull in audencieces like LOTR, nobody outside of book fans really care, sad but true.

In all practicality, I agree. Although the thought of being able to see the Silm* happen makes me just as giddy as any of you, it would either take several feature length films with huge budgets, or some sort of mini series, which is out of the question. A series would not allow enough time for such special effects that would be needed, and would turn into a disaster of the kind the BBC made of the Chronicles of Narnia.

It would also be hard to make transitions and things because of its history book type layout, spanning an entire age as well as numerous storylines, and characters out the yin yang.
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Old 05-14-2005, 12:25 AM   #5
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I won't say it hasn't been tricky. Your last point in particular has been worrisome; where to break off one film and start another? We nearly ended up, for instance, missing the Fingolfin vs Morgoth duel, though I salvaged it in a flashback in Lay of Luthien.

But I think it's going ahead pretty well, actually. Though of course we're only a mile or so down the John O'Groats road, and that's why we'd appreciate your help...

The site is down for a wee bit at the moment, being updated by the server.
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Old 06-05-2005, 10:10 AM   #6
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i have joined the board, and i would like to say for myself, i am an actor and would love to be apart of it
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Old 11-18-2004, 10:52 PM   #7
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Heh. I doubt we could get someone so pretigious to do the music! We have a few thoughts of our own floating around for it, so hopefully we'll be able to do a good job ourselves.

All the parts are being done by people on the board. We're not enlisting celebrities or outside help (except possibly for CG work). Besides, hS has dibs on Maglor. Good suggestions though! Thanks for wanting to help out!

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Old 11-19-2004, 02:36 PM   #8
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Ooh!

Sounds intriguing, Saphy! When I've got a little more time I will be sure to check it out more. Do you actually intend to make these movies, or is it just for fun? 'Cause it would be crazy if you did. I looked at the thread for the score, and I'd love to get involved in that. *Enca holds mouse cursor over the Finale icon on her desktop and grins wickedly*
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Old 11-20-2004, 12:10 PM   #9
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I am having trouble posting on the Silmarillion Movies message board. I registered and made sure I copied and pasted the password given, but the board said that either my name or the password is invalid. I used the same screen name as here to register. I have gotten e-mails from the board saying that I am registed and what my password is. Could someone tell me what the problem is?
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Old 11-20-2004, 08:18 PM   #10
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Ooh, I'd love to be involved! *volunteers to direct, act, write, design, whatever*

I'm taking a Video Production class this year!

*trots off to reread Silm*
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Old 11-20-2004, 08:35 PM   #11
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Awsome!

That would be cool to do! I've done story boards many times before (i have film inclined friends)...

I would be interested in story board production, if you are going to need any.


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Old 11-22-2004, 09:56 AM   #12
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I am having trouble posting on the Silmarillion Movies message board. I registered and made sure I copied and pasted the password given, but the board said that either my name or the password is invalid. I used the same screen name as here to register. I have gotten e-mails from the board saying that I am registed and what my password is. Could someone tell me what the problem is?
Yeah, that happens sometimes. *headdesk* If ye like I could go in and change your password, then PM the new one to ye here. If it is actually working now, let me know so I don't go mucking up yer password for no reason!

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Sounds intriguing, Saphy! When I've got a little more time I will be sure to check it out more. Do you actually intend to make these movies, or is it just for fun? 'Cause it would be crazy if you did. I looked at the thread for the score, and I'd love to get involved in that. *Enca holds mouse cursor over the Finale icon on her desktop and grins wickedly*
Yes, we are actually planning on making them. Probably will just float around on the 'Net (although my mom does have a DVD burner on her laptop computer...), but it should be really cool. And by all means come help with the music! We're kinda floundering on that; plus more people with Finale would really be great.

Elennar, that's great you're actually taking a class on this stuff! We would be very grateful for your help. ^_^

THE Ka, you can definitely come help with storyboards. We have the Prologue and Scenes 1-5 up already, so you can check those out if ye'd like to get started right away. Thank you for offering to help out! Also, there is a thread in the Conceptual Art section where you can post and link to any artwork ye've done, if you're interested.

Thank'ee all for your enthusiasm! *sends hugs and gold stars to the 'Downers* This is really going to be a great project, especially with all your help!

Abedithon le,

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Old 11-22-2004, 11:31 AM   #13
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I was able to log on to the message board, thank you for the offer to change the password.
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Old 11-22-2004, 05:55 PM   #14
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Question A little problem?

I recently went to go register for the movie project discussion board, and after signing in, i never recieved my password information e-mail. i just wanted to know if this is a common occurance...

Just being skeptical...

Also , i checked out the artist's part of the forum, i too have a deviant art account yeay! and i though i was alone! But, i really need to update it. you can go check it out though. my account name is Amenti Meri.


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Old 11-23-2004, 11:21 AM   #15
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I recently went to go register for the movie project discussion board, and after signing in, i never recieved my password information e-mail. i just wanted to know if this is a common occurance...
Gah. Yeah, that happens sometimes. I'll go in, change the password, and send you the new one. Then you can change it to whatever you want. Sound good?

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Old 11-23-2004, 02:56 PM   #16
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Have we decided on Live Action or Animation?

And can I be Maeglin if it's live?

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Old 11-23-2004, 03:04 PM   #17
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Ye could be Maeglin either way; they will need voices if they're animated. Unless we want to do "The Silmarillion (as performed by animated mimes)". o.O

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Old 11-25-2004, 12:23 PM   #18
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God! What a huge task !!! I wish you luck from the very bottom of my heart !!!
To me, the reading of the Silmarillion was simply a revelation !!!!! Awesome !!!!
I agree that 4 movies would be too much for the audience... But how could it be possible to reduce it?
Well, in any way I would be glad if I could help so....
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I think that if a movie was made then it would be like when Dune came out. If you don't know what Dune is then it is a great example of a really long, expensive movie that wasn't made for blockbuster audience goers. Though I haven't seen all of it, my dad assures me it's wonderful.

Music would have to be handled by Howard Shore. Who else could take such sensitive scenes and stress them perfectly? Plus, he's Canadian and I'm all for giving Canadians work. Heh.

Let me just say that whoever directs or writes should be a Tolkien scholar or the viewers would probably resort to mob-justice if they got something wrong.

It wouldn't be so hard because the book is so long or intricate, but because a lot of the book was by interpretation. Even more so than LOTR. It would be tricky business.

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Old 11-25-2004, 04:28 PM   #20
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That sounds awesome!

I can't wait to get a look at them. I'd really like to see the fight between Huor and Sauron. Who would've thought a talking dog could take on Sauron? Just seeing the Silmarills would be cool, too.

Well, I hope you have the best of luck in this adventure. I would come along, but I have some other pressing matters here that I must attend to. I wish you well, and hope to see your fine results.
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That sounds great,but I think it will be to hard too make,because it is hard to put all stories (Valinor,all battles,Beren and Luthien) in only 4 movies.And if you kick something out,the movie will be confusing for those people who didn't read the book.Sorry,but i think it's too hard.
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That sounds great,but I think it will be to hard too make,because it is hard to put all stories (Valinor,all battles,Beren and Luthien) in only 4 movies.And if you kick something out,the movie will be confusing for those people who didn't read the book.Sorry,but i think it's too hard
But you'll never know unless you try. No doubt many people told PJ he was being ridiculous trying to shoot three movies all at once.
p.s. just though I'd bump this thread back up, since I think it's an excellent idea & I'm sure they can use all the help they can get.
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