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Gurthang · 10-30-2004, 08:39 PM

When you think about power, there are a lot of different ways to look at it. So this post is limited to physical power.

Excluding Eru, who is easily the most powerful being there is, there are many mighty beings. So the question is: Who do you think is the most powerful being in the circle of Arda?

My vote would have to go to Ungoliant. At the height of her power, she single handedly made Morgoth cry like a baby. She was chased away by a bunch of Balrogs, but in a fair, one-on-one fight, I think she could take anybody.

So, any challengers for this champion?

Estelyn Telcontar · 10-31-2004, 06:28 AM

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turgon · 10-31-2004, 12:49 PM

Tulkas. It was my impression he beat the batsnot out of melkor when the chain was placed on him. And also in domination of the world the powers that be would diminish. also I think Ungoliant appeared stronger then she was in holding melkor; as much of his spirit was spent already. I think

Mithalwen · 10-31-2004, 01:15 PM

I wouldn't pick a fight with Tulkas ... but powerful females terrify males :P

turgon · 10-31-2004, 09:12 PM

If your a powerful female; then why would you not pick a fight with tulkas? If males are scared by powerful women.

Elianna · 11-01-2004, 01:18 AM

....but if men are scared of powerful females, wouldn't that be a pyschological power, not physical?

My vote also goes for Tulkas, or Morgoth...I haven't read Sil yet, so I'm not quite certain.

10-30-2004, 08:39 PM	#1
Gurthang Sword of Spirit Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Oh, I'm around. Posts: 1,401	No, I'm the biggest.... When you think about power, there are a lot of different ways to look at it. So this post is limited to physical power. Excluding Eru, who is easily the most powerful being there is, there are many mighty beings. So the question is: Who do you think is the most powerful being in the circle of Arda? My vote would have to go to Ungoliant. At the height of her power, she single handedly made Morgoth cry like a baby. She was chased away by a bunch of Balrogs, but in a fair, one-on-one fight, I think she could take anybody. So, any challengers for this champion? __________________ I'm on a Mission from God.

10-31-2004, 06:28 AM	#2
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	This topic asks for opinions more than actual book discussions, so I'm moving it to the Novices and Newcomers forum where the opinion threads are located. Please continue to read and post there. Thanks! __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

10-31-2004, 12:49 PM	#3
turgon Haunting Spirit Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Annagroth Posts: 57	Tulkas. It was my impression he beat the batsnot out of melkor when the chain was placed on him. And also in domination of the world the powers that be would diminish. also I think Ungoliant appeared stronger then she was in holding melkor; as much of his spirit was spent already. I think __________________ "What I have left behind I count now no loss, needless baggage on the road it has proved. Let those that cursed my name, curse me still, and whine their way back to the cages" " MIGHT IS RIGHT, DISSENT IS INTOLERABLE" Last edited by turgon; 10-31-2004 at 09:14 PM.

10-31-2004, 01:15 PM	#4
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,458	I wouldn't pick a fight with Tulkas ... but powerful females terrify males :P __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

10-31-2004, 09:12 PM	#5
turgon Haunting Spirit Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Annagroth Posts: 57	If your a powerful female; then why would you not pick a fight with tulkas? If males are scared by powerful women. __________________ "What I have left behind I count now no loss, needless baggage on the road it has proved. Let those that cursed my name, curse me still, and whine their way back to the cages" " MIGHT IS RIGHT, DISSENT IS INTOLERABLE"

11-01-2004, 01:18 AM	#6
Elianna Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Ad finem itineris Posts: 384	....but if men are scared of powerful females, wouldn't that be a pyschological power, not physical? My vote also goes for Tulkas, or Morgoth...I haven't read Sil yet, so I'm not quite certain. __________________ Enyale cuilenya, ú-enyale mandenya.