Gimli and the Ring - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Zebedee · 09-22-2004, 05:56 PM

Would Gimli had been corrupted by the Ring if Frodo had not left? I thought about this once or twice. The Dwarves were made stubborn so they could resist the enemy, so theoreticaly, could Gimli have resisted? Also, Sauron could not corrupt the holders of the 7 dwarf rings.

Encaitare · 09-22-2004, 07:42 PM

The Ring would have begun to corrupt everyone around it, but certainly not to as extreme an extent as Frodo. Gimli probably would have felt drawn to the Ring, but as you said, Dwarves are made of stern stuff and he probably would have been able to resist it.

This is all just speculation; I can't think of any text to back it up off the top of my head.

Boromir88 · 09-22-2004, 07:43 PM

I think, Gimli, would have been the last of the Fellowship members to fall to the ring (if it ever came to that). Gimli saw the ring as another piece of gold to throw on the pile of gold dwarves already have, he didn't see it as Boromir did like a "weapon" to use and wield against Sauron. He just saw it as another piece of gold, but being that the dwarves are greedy and want to accumulate more wealth he would have taken it, but that's why I think he would have been the last. Because he didn't see it as some of the others did.

Zebedee · 09-22-2004, 07:47 PM

I thought that he would be the last to try to take it if he was to take it at all, but I wanted to see if anyone else knew something about this.

09-23-2004, 01:04 AM

Gimli may not have considered the ring a weapon, but there are other ideas that it could have put into his head. It was discussed at the Council of Elrond that Sauron had offered the dwarves dominion over Moria for all time, if they would reveal what they knew about the Shire.

Gimli could have been tempted to take the ring, and trade it for the fame, and honour of securing Moria for the dwarvish people. He could think of returning to the days of the Second Age when dwarves locked themselves away and largely ignored the problems of the surface world.

I think the ring would use whatever it needed to work away at the resistance of the members of the fellowship. Sooner or later it would have broken everyone.

**The Saucepan Man** · 09-23-2004, 02:55 AM

There are some further thoughts on this issue, relating to the Fellowship in general, here:

Which of the Fellowship would have gone ring mad?

Nimrodel_9 · 09-23-2004, 04:51 PM

I believe that sooner or later everyone would have been tempted by the ring, though dwarves probably would have been some of the last.

09-22-2004, 05:56 PM	#1
Zebedee Haunting Spirit Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Lafayette, LA Posts: 61	Gimli and the Ring Would Gimli had been corrupted by the Ring if Frodo had not left? I thought about this once or twice. The Dwarves were made stubborn so they could resist the enemy, so theoreticaly, could Gimli have resisted? Also, Sauron could not corrupt the holders of the 7 dwarf rings. __________________ If at first you don't succed, then skydiving isn't for you.

09-22-2004, 07:43 PM	#3
Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,519	Another piece. I think, Gimli, would have been the last of the Fellowship members to fall to the ring (if it ever came to that). Gimli saw the ring as another piece of gold to throw on the pile of gold dwarves already have, he didn't see it as Boromir did like a "weapon" to use and wield against Sauron. He just saw it as another piece of gold, but being that the dwarves are greedy and want to accumulate more wealth he would have taken it, but that's why I think he would have been the last. Because he didn't see it as some of the others did.

09-22-2004, 07:47 PM	#4
Zebedee Haunting Spirit Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Lafayette, LA Posts: 61	I thought that he would be the last to try to take it if he was to take it at all, but I wanted to see if anyone else knew something about this. __________________ If at first you don't succed, then skydiving isn't for you.

09-23-2004, 02:55 AM	#6
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	There are some further thoughts on this issue, relating to the Fellowship in general, here: Which of the Fellowship would have gone ring mad? __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

09-23-2004, 04:51 PM	#7
Nimrodel_9 Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Utah Posts: 734	I believe that sooner or later everyone would have been tempted by the ring, though dwarves probably would have been some of the last. __________________ .:A friend is someone who reaches for your hand and touches your heart:.

09-22-2004, 07:42 PM	#2
Encaitare Bittersweet Symphony Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: On the jolly starship Enterprise Posts: 1,814	The Ring would have begun to corrupt everyone around it, but certainly not to as extreme an extent as Frodo. Gimli probably would have felt drawn to the Ring, but as you said, Dwarves are made of stern stuff and he probably would have been able to resist it. This is all just speculation; I can't think of any text to back it up off the top of my head.

09-23-2004, 01:04 AM	#5
SmokingNarsil Guest Posts: n/a	Gimli may not have considered the ring a weapon, but there are other ideas that it could have put into his head. It was discussed at the Council of Elrond that Sauron had offered the dwarves dominion over Moria for all time, if they would reveal what they knew about the Shire. Gimli could have been tempted to take the ring, and trade it for the fame, and honour of securing Moria for the dwarvish people. He could think of returning to the days of the Second Age when dwarves locked themselves away and largely ignored the problems of the surface world. I think the ring would use whatever it needed to work away at the resistance of the members of the fellowship. Sooner or later it would have broken everyone.