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09-15-2004, 09:33 AM | #1 |
Animated Skeleton
Join Date: Apr 2003
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I dont userstand.
When Sauron forged the One ring what was his intentions, as he didn't know about the 3 elven rings, was he hoping the (high elves, Celebrimbor?) elves were wearing one of the 16 rings the elves forged and (Sauron sullied these) so trapping them that way? Or was he trying to do it another way, if so how? His plan failed as he hadn't reckoned the elves forging the 3 rings, and with them (his own one) Celebrimbor perceived Saurons plans, or did all the rings allow them to perceive Sauron's plan?
Also why could Lorien survive Orc attacks etc but Rivendell would'nt. In the back of RotK it says how Lorien survived 3 attacks and would only fall if Sauron came. Regarding Rivendell, Gandalf tells Frodo whilst trying to go over the Misty Mnts, that to go back to Rivendell would be to admit defeat, and suffer worse defeat again, because they wouldn't be able to set off again and Rivendell would be besieged and after and brief and bitter time it would be destroyed. So why could Rivendell be crushed without Sauron and Lorien would survive til Sauron came. Is the ring Galadriel stronger then Elronds? So if Sauron the Great and Accursed regains the ring, would this happen? Gandalf, Galadriel & Elrond, be slaves, controlled by him? Rivendell and Lorien would Fall easy. The battle for Minas Tirith and Pellenor by about the same, the Nazgul would be far more powerful and fearful, maybe Witch-King wouldn't killed? Can anyone let me know if all these are correct, I wanna get it straight it my head! Thanks |
09-15-2004, 11:28 AM | #2 |
Auspicious Wraith
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You seem to be asking a lot of questions so I'll only address one point you made just now. Sauron forged the Ruling Ring in order to dominate the peoples of Middle-earth. He knew about the Elven Rings and when he found out that the Elves had hid the three most powerful of these, he was mostly furious.
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09-15-2004, 01:22 PM | #3 | |
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Another point.
I can adress a seperate point that you made.
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09-15-2004, 07:01 PM | #4 | |
Shade of Carn Dûm
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09-15-2004, 07:06 PM | #5 |
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Show me.
Voralphion When, you find the quote, could you please post it, I would like to see it. But being Noldor, and being an elf that had seen the two trees I would think Galadriel would be more powerful. Also, having a role in actually throwing out Sauron from Dol Guldur, shows extreme power. It does say, in LOTR Vilya was the most powerful of the Elven-rings. But, in the Sil and UT it says Nenya and Narya are the most powerful, so I don't the ring is much relevance, but yes Galadriel does seem to use Nenya more then Elrond uses Vilya. Please, show me the quote, then I could change my mind.
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09-15-2004, 10:38 PM | #6 | |
Shade of Carn Dûm
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The quote is here,
Letter 246: Quote:
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