Who do you feel sorry for?

[Isowen]

I'm not sure if there's a thread like this anywhere else. But, I am a newcomer so I guess I could put it here.
Which lotr character (in the films or the books, it matters not) do you pity the most and why?
I expect most people would say Gollum or Frodo but it would be interesting to read what you all think.
Thanks

[Morsul the Dark]

I feel bad for Sam he does all the work he saves Frodo lotsw of times he sacrifices his own food and water and then everyone says Frodo is the hero of the story just because he carried the ring "Frodo wouldn't have gotten far without Sam" darn tuttin'! Without Sam Frodo would be chained in Bardur and Sauron would be making his hobbit slaves feed him because he would rule ME

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Out of all Tolkien's characters I would say Turin, but from The Lord of the Rings I think I might say Eowyn, because she suffered a lot in her early life.

Probably Boromir, because he repented his sins, realised that he had brought everything to the brink of wreck and ruin, because he was unable to fight or control his desire for the ring. He was a noble man, powerful and strong, who was corrupted by the power of the ring, and could not do anything about it.

As Gandalf said, (paraphrasing) alas for Boromir....it is good that I foreced Elrond to allow Merry and Pipin to come along, at least for Boromier's sake.

Every time I read the breaking of the fellowship chapter a tear comes to my eye, as when I watch that scene in the movie.

I feel a different kind of pity and sorrow for Gollum and for Frodo, but they (at least in my mind) did not ever realise that what they had just done could have resulted in the death of everyone they loved, subjection to slavery of their people and betrayal of their friends.

[DarkRose]

Originally Posted by Morsul the Dark

I feel bad for Sam he does all the work he saves Frodo lotsw of times he sacrifices his own food and water and then everyone says Frodo is the hero of the story just because he carried the ring "Frodo wouldn't have gotten far without Sam" darn tuttin'! Without Sam Frodo would be chained in Bardur and Sauron would be making his hobbit slaves feed him because he would rule ME

Actually, Sam ends up getting more fame and appreciation from the Shirefolk when he returns than Frodo does. He even becomes mayor, while Frodo is basically unappreciated.

Anyway, for that reason, along with others, I pity Frodo. He goes endures so much and undergoes so much inner-turmoil.

[Boromir88]

Shia'tan, I would have to agree with you about the Boromir thing. But, in the almost wreck and total destruction he helped Frodo make an important decision that would have surely led to his doom. If Boromir hadn't of "gone mad" Frodo would of never realized he had to get out of the Fellowship. Boromir was only the first to fall to the ring the others would have fallen eventually, Boromir made Frodo realized he had to get out of the Fellowship before it tore them apart.

Yes, for me I would have to say that is the most tragic point. Even viewing the movie, I knew what was going to happen, but it's the only part in the movie where I almost cried.

[Lachwen]

Out of all of Tolkien's characters, I'd say I pity Túrin the most. His life was like a classic Greek tragedy: by the end, everyone was dead. The Tale of the Children of Húrin is without a doubt the most depressing thing Tolkien ever wrote.

From The Lord of the Rings, though, I'd say Faramir. Though he loved his brother Boromir, he was always in his shadow; no matter what he did to try to please his father, Denethor always dismissed it, basically saying "Your brother could have done it better." Then Boromir gets sent off on this quest, so Faramir is stuck back home trying to do the work of himself and his brother and still can't make Dad happy. After getting serriously poned by the Orcs in Osgiliath, he gets chased across the Pelennor by the Nazgûl. Then he gets the great news that, hey, guess what! Boromir's dead. That doesn't improve his standing in his father's eyes, and so in the attempt to live up to his brother's standards, Faramir goes off to retake Osgiliath, only to be shot and fall under the Black Breath. He nearly dies, and can you even imagine what it must have been like for him to wake up and be told that his father had gone totally bonkers and burned himself alive? Poor Faramir basically got stuck with living in an Endorian soap opera.

[Meela]

Denethor. He gets misunderstood because not many people see both sides of his character. He used to be a decent man, but the books don't cover that. And he's suffered more than anyone should have to suffer. He thought Faramir was dead; that would have been his whole family he'd seen slip away from him.

[ohtatyaro]

Fili and Kili (just reminded by the thread of 'favvie dwarves')

[Elianna]

ohtatyaro: Right on about Fili and Kili. They were my favorite of the 13 and so, of course, they're the ones who die (along with Thorin, duh).

[Gelmir]

I feel bad for Gelmir. He killed many orcs, and in the end the orcs capture him, take off his sword arm and hit him with it then his right arm and eat it (well probably) then take his legs off. And leave him in pain for a while and chop off his head. Aww, I feel bad for me.

[Hookbill the Goomba]

him with it then his right arm and eat it (well probably) then take his legs off. And leave him in pain for a while and chop off his head. Aww, I feel bad for me

Don't you feel bad for his brother and the other Elves who had to watch all of this happening?

After reading these post , I realized that all these characters suffered (some more,some less) because they were in the middle of a terrible and horrible War! , so I rrally feel sorry for them all, because any of them wanted to be part of such dreadful situations(specially the hobbits!).

[Isowen]

oh good point elvenstar, and all of you. I guess most of the people we feel sorry for are in the third age, with all the bad times etc, but obviously not all of 'em are.

[Laitoste]

I can't really decide...I felt sorry for different characters at different time, like I felt sorry for Grima in The Scouring of the Shire, and for Gollum in the quote that Tuor so kindly provided. I guess I feel sorry for Turin, but since he tends to anger me, not much. I'm not sure...

[The Perky Ent]

Here's someone I really feel sorry for: Aredhel! She was foced to marry Eol, who she didn't love, let alone know! Then, she gives her life to save Maeglin, and how does he repay her? He destorys the city she knew, loved, and protected!

[Isowen]

good good good......keep it coming people! I personally feel sorry for Denethor. I mean, he lost Boromir and his wife, he thought he'd lost Faramir. He cannot be king of the city which he loves so much, only the steward and Minas Tirith is under seige and there is nothing he can really do about it! Poor old Denethor and to top it off he goes and burns himself alive, but that's msotly stupidity

I have 2 that I feel sorry for. First I would have to say Faramir, because his father obviously loves Boromir more, but then he has to tell Faramir it right to his face that he would rather have Faramir dead than Boromir. I mean come on, you don't just tell your own child that!

Secondly, I feel sorry for Sam, because he chooses to go to Mordor with Frodo, but everyone gives all the credit to Frodo. I mean Sam's the one who got Frodo through all of that. He saved him so many times. I know Frodo does give him a lot of credit, but others just don't understand how much Sam really did.

[Neferchoirwen]

At first, I thought Grima was as smart as I thought he would be, but he was exactly like Saruman. He dreamt of getting it on to the easy street to power (pretty much like his boss Saruman), but he got nothing out of it in the end, dying tragically. Like Judas. *sniff*

[Saurreg]

I felt for Boromir

Boromir was a true patriot who loved his land and its people. Indeed he has given much to preserve what he could and I would even go on to say that he had given his all. What Boromir did, he did it all for the love of his country and he did what he thought was the best Fate dealt him a cruel hand by having his father send him on an unsuitable errand that was to spell his doom and to have to face the menace of the ring during his moment of desperateness and weakness.

He did not "sin" when he tried to take the ring, the fates were toying with him. Boromir did not deserve to die like a hunted animal.

[Mithalwen]

Boromir was a warrior by inclination and he was redeemed by his heroism in defending Merry and Pippin... I think realistically all the Fellowship would have been as grubby as Aragorn .... it just seems odd that Aragorn is such a state while Boromir, who is on exactly the same journey always had clean hair and a tidy beard .......

[The Elusive Spirit]

I feel for Galadriel. She was banished from Valinor (although it was her fault). She could not return for a long time and when she did get permission to return she had to leave Lorien. Lorien, the relm she built with her own hands. She helped Frodo in his quest rejecting the possibility of great power. When she rejected the ring she not only lost her chance for more power, she also set herself up to forfeit the power she had through her ring. It seems that what ever decision Galadriel made she ended up leaving something close to her heart behind.

[Orophin]

I always felt sorry for Faramir. His father put out all of his love to Boromir when they were both honorable and good men. Especially after Boromir dies and he sends Faramir to retake Osgiliath. How depressing. Also I always felt a little sorry for all of the ents who never found the entwives.

[Gothbogg the Ripper]

I feel most sorry for Treebeard because when I read the Many Partings chapter of The Return of the King it seems quite sad when he starts saying how there will be no more Ents because of the fact that they lost the Entwives, yet he still has a shred of hope that they'll find them again, it's so futile it's tragic.

[Amrod the Hunter]

Definetly Sam,who went in all troubles for ''Mr. Frodo'' and saved hiss butt so many times,but Frodo didn't even want to listen to his opinions about Gollum and everything else.The good thing is he finally gets fame for thet in Shire.