**RotK Soundtrack - Into the West** - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Arathiriel · 11-10-2003, 03:00 PM

Okay, I've listened to the clip of "Into the West" the theme song for the Return of the King - here are the words we hear in this segment: What can you see over horizon? Why do the white gulls call? Across the sea (Something) horizon The ships have come to carry you home... Anyway, from the little segment I have heard of this song I think perhaps this song will have to grow on me, much as Gollum's song did - but then we have not yet heard the entire effect of the song in its entirety - who knows I may fall in love with this song from the moment I hear all of it for the very first time! And I also have mixed reaction about Annie Lennox's voice used here - not that I am saying her song is bad but will her singing this song, when heard in its entirety, but as haunting as Enya singing "May It Be"? I hope so but so far I have mixed reviews upon hearing her! What were YOUR reactions?(Title edited by moderator to make it 'official')[ November 25, 2003: Message edited by: Estelyn Telcontar ]

Iarhen · 11-10-2003, 04:44 PM

I did not like it. I was expecting someyhing more dramatic... more sad since its the end of an era! With many great things passing...I wanted something more elegant and tragic, a là "Love song for a vampire"... Not that...çi hope that the rest of the song is a little more sad... This is supossed to be a sad movie... and the movie song has to reflect the movie!!So the thing is that I did not like it...

Arathiriel · 11-10-2003, 04:57 PM

Correction on the lyrics posted above:What can you see over the horizon? Why do the white gulls call? Across the sea A pale moon rises The ships have come to carry you home...I think this song is growing on me and I think I will love it by the time I hear it all!

HCIsland · 11-10-2003, 04:58 PM

I agree it's tough to call when you just get 30 seconds in the middle of the song. I'm pretty neutral towards it. Personally, it sounds to me like the type of song directed straight to the Oscar academy, especially with using such a recognizable name as Annie Lennox.It could be worse. They could have gotten Phil Collins. H.C.

Amarantha_Daisy · 11-10-2003, 05:26 PM

I just downloaded all the clips they had at ToRN, and they made me all teary-eyed... *sniffle*I agree with HC in that I'm neutral. At first I flat out disliked it, but it certainly is growing on me. It's hard to say, really. I think listening to the whole song will give me a final answer <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> It could be worse. They could have gotten Phil Collins. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>*snicker*

Gorwingel · 11-10-2003, 07:18 PM

I will most definitely have to listen to the entire song before I make a final opinion about it. From the very short snippet I heard though, I didn't like it. It just didn't sound right, it seemed kind of rough. But I will have to listen to the entire song though.

Imladris · 11-10-2003, 07:30 PM

I really want to listen, but I can't find it anywhere! Could someone please post a link?

THE Ka · 11-10-2003, 08:20 PM

I really don't know about this song. With any Soundtrack Album or song you really can't tell entil you've heard the entire song and in what scene or "Enviroment" it has been placed in. Always a good thing to remember about songs like these is " The roll of music in society is to support the needs of the moment." or film if you will. So, i am a nutrual about this. Oh, before i forget it also depends on the ARTIST singing, or playing the song and if their music is appropriate for the film or does it fit in. With a film like the return of the king, since it is the end of a set of three you had better have matching music or you'll be able to see the bruse of it at the academy awards. If you catch my drift. All, in all, it is good that they have someone like Anne Lennox or Enya compose songs for this film. Because really, people, listen to me, i don't think The lord of the rings really needs Christina Agulaura singing " Dirty" instead of Anne's "into the west". Yes, i know that Christina is a freak. <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>" Whoa! there goes another poor Bronze casting Academy award!" - The Ka, in response to one of last year's Academy award winners. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Amarantha_Daisy · 11-10-2003, 08:29 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> I really want to listen, but I can't find it anywhere! Could someone please post a link? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Sure! <A HREF="http://www.theonering.net/staticnews/1068391654.html" TARGET=_blank>Here's</A> the TORN link. They have clips of every song on the soundtrack. "Into the West" is number 19.[ November 10, 2003: Message edited by: Amarantha_Daisy ]

HCIsland · 11-10-2003, 08:36 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> With any Soundtrack Album or song you really can't tell entil you've heard the entire song and in what scene or "Enviroment" it has been placed in. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> I agree though I think we can be pretty sure that the Lennox song will be playing during the closing credits.H.C.

Imladris · 11-10-2003, 09:04 PM

Thank you, Amarantha_Daisy, for the link. *grins*. I listened to the song and I was, uh, less than thrilled. I mean, she's not even singing it properly (she's "twanging" her vowels and, as my old choir teacher would say, she doesn't have an "ah" sound to it). It actually sounds almost anti-climatic. But I must admit that I was just getting used to it when the snippet ended, so maybe it'll get better as it continues. Thanks again!Imladris*Dashes off to listen to the others*

Morquesse · 11-10-2003, 10:47 PM

At first I was like this without the smile. I've listined to it a bit more, now I'm edging toward nuetral. I didn't like the "Gollum song either, though I'm better with it now. Maybe they should have stuck to Enya or another celtic gal for the credits. Hopefully it's better in its full form. See you later! ~M[ November 10, 2003: Message edited by: Morquesse ]

dancing spawn of ungoliant · 11-11-2003, 08:28 AM

Oh, this is so depressing! I decided not to listen it before the movie but even reading your replies makes me feel cranky! But I'm positive about the rest songs being brilliant.

Essex · 11-11-2003, 10:42 AM

Who really liked the gollum song when they first heard a titbit of it? I thought it sounded like a Bond theme tune, but it works perfectly in the film. So I have no problems with annie's song.As to the song having to be sad. No, it needs to be bittersweet.PS The flute playing of Sir James Galway on the Return of the King track had me bawling my eyes out. And the grey havens music had me going, oh no, this will send me over the edge when I see the movie......What I also love is the little bit of tin whistle you can hear on the billy boyd track. I love the tin whistle, and again, Sir James makes it sound beautiful.

Goldberry · 11-11-2003, 03:01 PM

The lyrics I don't mind too much, but the whole song in itself just doesn't sound Middle-Earthy (is that a word?) to me...especially when it is sung by Annie Lennox. Maybe if it was sung by somebody with a less bright voice, it would sound a little better. But who knows, maybe it will sound better once we hear the whole thing.

ArathorofBarahir · 11-11-2003, 03:20 PM

I think that they sound great!

Sapphire_Flame · 11-11-2003, 03:59 PM

I like Gollum's Song and May It Be better.Abedithon le,~*~Aranel~*~

Amarantha_Daisy · 11-11-2003, 04:42 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> The lyrics I don't mind too much, but the whole song in itself just doesn't sound Middle-Earthy (is that a word?) to me... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I know exactly what you mean, and I agree! Enya and Emiliana Torrini had perfect voices for LotR, because they were kind of...urethral. I think Annie Lennox's voice is a bit too strong. Of course, this is only judging from the small piece we hear in the clip... <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> I like Gollum's Song and May It Be better. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Ditto.

Tigerlily Gamgee · 11-12-2003, 09:41 AM

Wow, I am in a minority here. I, personally, really like the song from the 30 seconds that I've heard. It didn't even take a second listen. I think people are judging Annie Lennox because of her "pop" background... what would you think if it wasn't Annie Lennox but someone who sounded pretty much the same?Sometimes I think the less perfect a voice is the more it can convey sadness and heartbreak. So, I think it fits very well. I am also addictive to the melodic value of the song... So, I stand proudly in saying that I LOVE IT!

Imladris · 11-12-2003, 10:25 AM

Tigerlily, my mom liked it, too, and thought it was very sad. I'm starting to like it a little more...I guess I thought it just sounded un-Lord-of-the-Ringish. At the end of the movie, my mind probably will have changed though...

Arathiriel · 11-12-2003, 12:03 PM

I personally have started to love it as well - I especially loved the melody of the song, a melody which is hinted at in Track #15 The Black Gate Opens...I can't wait to hear the song and indeed the soundtrack in its entire form!

Enorëiel · 11-13-2003, 04:20 PM

My first thoughts when I heard the very beginning of it "what? Moulin Rouge?" That only lasted for a second though. I do agree that is sounds a bit un-Lord-of-the-Ringsish but I also agree with Imladris <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>At the end of the movie, my mind probably will have changed <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>As soon as the movie is through I don't think I'll really care about what I was thinking right at this moment.

Daisy Brambleburr · 11-16-2003, 06:03 AM

I just listened to Into the West, and to be honest I didn't like it very much. Her voice seemed to harsh for the song, I'd imagined that it should be much more gentle. But the actual lyrics were nice and I liked the tune. I'm just not sure about Annie Lennox's voice. But maybe it will improve once I've listened to it a few times. I liked May it Be instantly, but Gollums Song took a while to grow on me, and I'm still not sure about the lyrics. But never mind, it'll probably improve with time![ November 16, 2003: Message edited by: Daisy Brambleburr ]

Rose Cotton · 11-16-2003, 11:24 AM

I liked it. In fact I think it's perfect for the end of RotK.When the Fellowship ended "May it Be" fit because it was about hoping for a victory and a brighter day. It was sending Frodo and Sam on their journey to Mordor.After Towers ended "Gollum's Song" was perfect because it centered around Smeagol. It reflected his constant struggle throughout the film and foreshadowed his betrayal.This year, we'll come to the end with Return of the King. The whole audience will already be feeling sad. There will be a sence of loss. From what I've heard in "Into the West" it's a song that's ment to lift us back up. To give us a hopefull feeling. This is not the end. Only a wonderful new begaining.That's my two cents.

Amarantha_Daisy · 11-16-2003, 06:15 PM

You know what? I've actually become quite partial to this song...It does take some getting used to. Or at least for me, but that's probably just because I was expecting a...softer voice. But now that I've listened to it more, it seems to be growing on me.I'd love to hear the full version, and I'm sure it will work quite well in the movie. (or in the credits, I should say) I guess I was just a bit shocked when I first heard it. Was expecting something quite different...

HCIsland · 11-17-2003, 09:01 PM

Well luckily OneRing has just posted the whole song.<A HREF="http://img-nex.theonering.net/sounds/Annie_Lennox_-_Into_The_West.rm" TARGET=_blank>Into the West</A>I just listened to it and if you do I think all arguments will end.H.C.

Arathiriel · 11-17-2003, 09:29 PM

Oh I LOVE it!It is a beautiful, haunting song IMNSHO!

Arathiriel · 11-17-2003, 11:44 PM

Here are the lyrics someone posted over at ToRN - the only thing they're unsure of is the lyrics Dawn will fade" or "All will fade":Lay down your sweet and weary head Night is falling, you have come to journey's end. Sleep now, and dream of the ones who came before. They are calling from across the distant shore. Why do weep? What are these tears upon your face? Soon you will see all of your fears will pass away, safe in my arms you're only sleeping. What can you see on the horizon? Why do the white gulls call? Across the sea a pale moon rises -- The ships have come to carry you home. Dawn will turn to silver glass A light on the water All souls pass. Hope fades into the world of night through shadows falling out of memory and time. Don't say, "We have come now to the end." White shores are calling you and I will meet again. And you'll be here in my arms Just sleeping. What can can you see on the horizon? Why do the white gulls call? Across the sea a pale moon rises -- The ships have come to carry you home. And all will turn to silver glass A light on the water Grey ships pass Into the west.

ElenCala Isil · 11-18-2003, 12:16 AM

I from the short segment, was fairly dissapointed in this song. I agree it didn't seem middle-earthy... I don't think it 'pulls at our heartstrings' as much as the others, which I think is sad, because it's the end of the whole epic trilogy. It just doesn't seem to give me the feeling I get when I read the books, but...I can't judge it too well, I haven't heard the whole thing, in context with the end of the previous song to see how it truly makes me feel... that's just my opinion on it so far.

Rose Cotton · 11-18-2003, 06:27 AM

My reaction to the full song: I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![ November 18, 2003: Message edited by: Rose Cotton ]

Imladris · 11-18-2003, 09:04 AM

That was so wonderful! Indescribably sad! My mum cried when listening to it and I became sad (but didn't cry). I think it's my favourite song out of the three (May it Be and Gollum's Song)

Esgallhugwen · 11-18-2003, 10:19 AM

Well, well well. May it be is my favourite song. when I first heard Gollum's song I thought it sounded as if it belonged to a James Bond movie. (like some of you have said) When I hear the new song thought I havn't heard the whole thing I do not like it at all! It seems too loud, and her vioce is...uummm what would be a good word. A little to masculine almost and it doesn't seem sad enough. I was hoping they would have another woman that sounded like Enya. She seems to have the perfect quality for singing LOR songs, she has that marveuosly haunting Elvish voice. With the Gollum song like I said above and also it sounded almost if Bjork sang it. But I have become not so much used to it that I have come to feel the saddness in it and such. Wow I'm having a really hard time trying to explain myself..Oh well I'll just have to listen to the rest of it.But shelob's lair and ash and smoke are good the others are probably good too. Must listen.

HCIsland · 11-18-2003, 11:03 AM

I guess folks are just replying to the first post, but it seems at least a couple of people have missed that the whole song is now available. So in order to catch their attention ... <A HREF="http://img-nex.theonering.net/sounds/Annie_Lennox_-_Into_The_West.rm" TARGET=_blank>THE WHOLE SONG!!!</A> I really think that if you click on the link above, your worries will be laid aside.H.C.

Arathiriel · 11-18-2003, 11:37 AM

LOL - You know I would love to sit in the theater after ROTK is over, and listen to this song and cry some more - yes I know the ending will have me bawling like a baby already - I would love to sit and listen but I suspect my bladder will be saying to me "Get up ALREADY you MORON and go to the bathroom! I'm about to pop!"Yes, I DO love this song - I truly do!!!

dancing spawn of ungoliant · 11-22-2003, 07:35 AM

I just listened the whole song and when the trombones first played I had tears in my eyes! Or were they trombones...I think they were.

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I DO love this song - I truly do!!!

I second that! The melody is beautiful, the lyrics are touching and it's snowing outside. I just want to cry. *sigh* War of the Ring has some competition concerning this song. Click if you're interested.

Aethelwine · 11-22-2003, 08:33 AM

Wow, wish I'd found this thread sooner!What I heart of the small clip, I really loved it! My mom didn't, though. But she also didn't like Gollem's song.BTW, thanks a whole lot HC! When I first listened to the full version, I was stuned! It's so beautifull!HC, or anybody else who might now this, are there any full clips from the other songs from the soundtrack?Navaer!Aethelwine.

dragoneyes · 11-22-2003, 09:02 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Or were they trombones...I think they were. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>They sounded like French Horns to me.The lyrics and music are very touching, but they don't bring Middle-Earth to mind as the other two did. But I think that I must be hard to please because the other two didn't capture me much either (I started arguing with Gollum's song ).At times it sounds like a Christmas Carol (I must listen to some weird Carols!) and then at the end it sounds like something from Fantasia.Not really how I'd imagine the ending of RotK. Just as well I'll probably be out of the cinema by then!

ElentariGreenleaf · 11-22-2003, 09:35 AM

I like it, but yet I don't like it. It's not even remotely middle-earthish. I stayed behind to listen to Gollum's song in the cinema, but I'll be leaving before this starts!

dancing spawn of ungoliant · 11-22-2003, 09:46 AM

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They sounded like French Horns to me.

Brass instruments anyway.

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are there any full clips from the other songs from the soundtrack?

I don't know about the tracks being full lenght on this site but at least there are some clips. I haven't tried them because I want to see the movie first.

Essex · 11-22-2003, 03:03 PM

The song is beautiful. slightly off thread, but does anyone know anywhere that's selling the soundtrack in england yet? it's saturday and I can't find it. I know it's not due out until tuesday, but last year I got TT at leat 4 or 5 days early in a Virign record store. alas none yet. Anyone found it yet? If so, could you PM me and tell me where? I can't wait!

11-10-2003, 04:44 PM	#2
Iarhen Wight Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Laurelindorenan Posts: 225	I did not like it. I was expecting someyhing more dramatic... more sad since its the end of an era! With many great things passing...<P>I wanted something more elegant and tragic, a là "Love song for a vampire"... Not that...<P>çi hope that the rest of the song is a little more sad... This is supossed to be a sad movie... and the movie song has to reflect the movie!!<P>So the thing is that I did not like it... __________________ "In place of a Dark Lord you will have a Queen! Not dark but beatiful and terrible as the Dawn! Treacherous as the sea! Stronger than the foundations of the Earth! All shall love me and despair!" --- Galadriel when tempted by the One Ring.

11-10-2003, 04:57 PM	#3
Arathiriel Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Blessed Realm Posts: 284	Correction on the lyrics posted above:<P><I>What can you see over the horizon?<BR>Why do the white gulls call?<BR>Across the sea<BR>A pale moon rises<BR>The ships have come to carry you home...</I><P>I think this song is growing on me and I think I will love it by the time I hear it all! __________________ 'I love him. He's like that, and sometimes it shines through, somehow. But I love him, whether or no.' - Samwise Gamgee

11-10-2003, 04:58 PM	#4
HCIsland Zombie Cannibal Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,000	I agree it's tough to call when you just get 30 seconds in the middle of the song. I'm pretty neutral towards it. Personally, it sounds to me like the type of song directed straight to the Oscar academy, especially with using such a recognizable name as Annie Lennox.<P>It could be worse. They could have gotten Phil Collins. <P>H.C. __________________ "Stir not the bitterness in the cup that I mixed myself. Have I not tasted it now many nights upon my tongue, foreboding that worse yet lay in the dregs." -Denethor

11-10-2003, 05:26 PM	#5
Amarantha_Daisy Wight Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Bag End... On Frodo's laptop. Shhhh! Don't tell! Posts: 240	I just downloaded all the clips they had at ToRN, and they made me all teary-eyed... sniffle<P>I agree with HC in that I'm neutral. At first I flat out disliked it, but it certainly is growing on me. It's hard to say, really. I think listening to the whole song will give me a final answer <P> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> It could be worse. They could have gotten Phil Collins. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>snicker __________________ "I did not see the Balrog until I saw the film! He was -- it was -- just a yellow tennis ball on top of a pole for me to shout at. I felt like screaming 'You shall not bounce!'" ~Sir Ian McKellen October 20, 2005 - 1st Annual Golden Ring Marathon! Spread the Word!

11-10-2003, 07:18 PM	#6
Gorwingel Beholder of the Mists Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Somewhere in the Northwest... for now Posts: 1,419	I will most definitely have to listen to the entire song before I make a final opinion about it. From the very short snippet I heard though, I didn't like it. It just didn't sound right, it seemed kind of rough. But I will have to listen to the entire song though. __________________ Wanted - Wonderfully witty quote that consists of pure brilliance

11-10-2003, 03:00 PM	#1
Arathiriel Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Blessed Realm Posts: 284	RotK Soundtrack - Into the West Okay, I've listened to the clip of "Into the West" the theme song for the Return of the King - here are the words we hear in this segment:<BR> <BR><I>What can you see over horizon?<BR>Why do the white gulls call?<BR>Across the sea<BR>(Something) horizon<BR>The ships have come to carry you home...</I><BR> <BR>Anyway, from the little segment I have heard of this song I think perhaps this song will have to grow on me, much as Gollum's song did - but then we have not yet heard the entire effect of the song in its entirety - who knows I may fall in love with this song from the moment I hear all of it for the very first time!<BR> <BR>And I also have mixed reaction about Annie Lennox's voice used here - not that I am saying her song is bad but will her singing this song, when heard in its entirety, but as haunting as Enya singing "May It Be"? I hope so but so far I have mixed reviews upon hearing her!<BR> <BR>What were <B>YOUR</B> reactions?<P>(Title edited by moderator to make it 'official')<p>[ November 25, 2003: Message edited by: Estelyn Telcontar ] __________________ 'I love him. He's like that, and sometimes it shines through, somehow. But I love him, whether or no.' - Samwise Gamgee

11-10-2003, 07:30 PM	#7
Imladris Tears of the Phoenix Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Putting dimes in the jukebox baby. Posts: 1,453	I really want to listen, but I can't find it anywhere! Could someone please post a link? __________________ I'm sorry it wasn't a unicorn. It would have been nice to have unicorns. I'm your huckleberry.

11-10-2003, 08:20 PM	#8
THE Ka Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: As with the flygja Posts: 1,403	I really don't know about this song. With any Soundtrack Album or song you really can't tell entil you've heard the entire song and in what scene or "Enviroment" it has been placed in. Always a good thing to remember about songs like these is " The roll of music in society is to support the needs of the moment." or film if you will. So, i am a nutrual about this. Oh, before i forget it also depends on the ARTIST singing, or playing the song and if their music is appropriate for the film or does it fit in. <BR> With a film like the return of the king, since it is the end of a set of three you had better have matching music or you'll be able to see the bruse of it at the academy awards. If you catch my drift. <P> All, in all, it is good that they have someone like Anne Lennox or Enya compose songs for this film. <P>Because really, people, listen to me, i don't think The lord of the rings really needs Christina Agulaura singing " Dirty" instead of Anne's "into the west". <BR> <BR> Yes, i know that Christina is a freak. <P><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>" Whoa! there goes another poor Bronze casting Academy award!" - The Ka, in response to one of last year's Academy award winners. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> __________________ Vinur, vinur skilur tú meg? Veitst tú ongan loyniveg? Hevur tú reikað líka sum eg, í endaleysu tokuni?

11-10-2003, 08:29 PM	#9
Amarantha_Daisy Wight Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Bag End... On Frodo's laptop. Shhhh! Don't tell! Posts: 240	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> I really want to listen, but I can't find it anywhere! Could someone please post a link? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Sure! <A HREF="http://www.theonering.net/staticnews/1068391654.html" TARGET=_blank>Here's</A> the TORN link. They have clips of every song on the soundtrack. "Into the West" is number 19.<p>[ November 10, 2003: Message edited by: Amarantha_Daisy ] __________________ "I did not see the Balrog until I saw the film! He was -- it was -- just a yellow tennis ball on top of a pole for me to shout at. I felt like screaming 'You shall not bounce!'" ~Sir Ian McKellen October 20, 2005 - 1st Annual Golden Ring Marathon! Spread the Word!

11-10-2003, 08:36 PM	#10
HCIsland Zombie Cannibal Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,000	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> With any Soundtrack Album or song you really can't tell entil you've heard the entire song and in what scene or "Enviroment" it has been placed in. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>I agree though I think we can be pretty sure that the Lennox song will be playing during the closing credits.<P>H.C. __________________ "Stir not the bitterness in the cup that I mixed myself. Have I not tasted it now many nights upon my tongue, foreboding that worse yet lay in the dregs." -Denethor

11-10-2003, 09:04 PM	#11
Imladris Tears of the Phoenix Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Putting dimes in the jukebox baby. Posts: 1,453	Thank you, Amarantha_Daisy, for the link. grins. I listened to the song and I was, uh, less than thrilled. I mean, she's not even singing it properly (she's "twanging" her vowels and, as my old choir teacher would say, she doesn't have an "ah" sound to it). It actually sounds almost anti-climatic. But I must admit that I was just getting used to it when the snippet ended, so maybe it'll get better as it continues. Thanks again!<P>Imladris<P>Dashes off to listen to the others __________________ I'm sorry it wasn't a unicorn. It would have been nice to have unicorns. I'm your huckleberry.

11-10-2003, 10:47 PM	#12
Morquesse Wight Join Date: May 2002 Location: Past the fields we know.... Posts: 202	At first I was like this without the smile. I've listined to it a bit more, now I'm edging toward nuetral. <BR>I didn't like the "Gollum song either, though I'm better with it now. Maybe they should have stuck to Enya or another celtic gal for the credits.<BR>Hopefully it's better in its full form.<BR>See you later!<BR>~M<p>[ November 10, 2003: Message edited by: Morquesse ] __________________ I'm not ashamed to let you know I want this light in me to show. I'm not ashamed to speak the name of Jesus Christ.~Newsboys

11-11-2003, 08:28 AM	#13
dancing spawn of ungoliant Mischievous Candle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: So near to Russia, so far from Japan, quite a long way from Cairo, lots of miles from Vietnam. Posts: 1,234	Oh, this is so depressing! I decided not to listen it before the movie but even reading your replies makes me feel cranky! But I'm positive about the rest songs being brilliant. __________________ Fenris Wolf Last edited by dancing spawn of ungoliant; 01-12-2006 at 08:14 AM. Reason: Having a sweeping party...

11-11-2003, 10:42 AM	#14
Essex Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Essex, England Posts: 886	Who really liked the gollum song when they first heard a titbit of it? I thought it sounded like a Bond theme tune, but it works perfectly in the film. So I have no problems with annie's song.<P>As to the song having to be sad. No, it needs to be bittersweet.<P>PS The flute playing of Sir James Galway on the Return of the King track had me bawling my eyes out. And the grey havens music had me going, oh no, this will send me over the edge when I see the movie......<P>What I also love is the little bit of tin whistle you can hear on the billy boyd track. I love the tin whistle, and again, Sir James makes it sound beautiful.

11-11-2003, 03:01 PM	#15
Goldberry Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: The Old Forest Posts: 338	The lyrics I don't mind too much, but the whole song in itself just doesn't sound Middle-Earthy (is that a word?) to me...especially when it is sung by Annie Lennox. Maybe if it was sung by somebody with a less bright voice, it would sound a little better. <P>But who knows, maybe it will sound better once we hear the whole thing. __________________ "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." -Albert Einstein

11-11-2003, 03:20 PM	#16
ArathorofBarahir Wight Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Crickhallow Posts: 247	I think that they sound great! __________________ King of the Dead: The dead do not suffer the living to pass. Aragorn: You will suffer me.

11-11-2003, 03:59 PM	#17
Sapphire_Flame Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The World That Never Was Posts: 1,232	I like Gollum's Song and May It Be better.<P>Abedithon le,<P>~~Aranel~~ __________________ The Hitchhiking Ghost

11-11-2003, 04:42 PM	#18
Amarantha_Daisy Wight Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Bag End... On Frodo's laptop. Shhhh! Don't tell! Posts: 240	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> The lyrics I don't mind too much, but the whole song in itself just doesn't sound Middle-Earthy (is that a word?) to me... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I know exactly what you mean, and I agree! Enya and Emiliana Torrini had perfect voices for LotR, because they were kind of...urethral. I think Annie Lennox's voice is a bit too strong. Of course, this is only judging from the small piece we hear in the clip...<P> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> I like Gollum's Song and May It Be better. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Ditto. __________________ "I did not see the Balrog until I saw the film! He was -- it was -- just a yellow tennis ball on top of a pole for me to shout at. I felt like screaming 'You shall not bounce!'" ~Sir Ian McKellen October 20, 2005 - 1st Annual Golden Ring Marathon! Spread the Word!

11-12-2003, 09:41 AM	#19
Tigerlily Gamgee Hostess of Spirits Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Meduseld Posts: 1,055	Wow, I am in a minority here.<BR>I, personally, really like the song from the 30 seconds that I've heard. It didn't even take a second listen.<BR>I think people are judging Annie Lennox because of her "pop" background... what would you think if it wasn't Annie Lennox but someone who sounded pretty much the same?<P>Sometimes I think the less perfect a voice is the more it can convey sadness and heartbreak. So, I think it fits very well. I am also addictive to the melodic value of the song... <P>So, I stand proudly in saying that I LOVE IT! __________________ ~ ExerciseJunky.com (Hobbits fitness of choice!)~ ~Lady of Rohan: An Eowyn Fansite ~ ~The NEW/OLD Barrow Downs Photo Page~

11-12-2003, 10:25 AM	#20
Imladris Tears of the Phoenix Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Putting dimes in the jukebox baby. Posts: 1,453	Tigerlily, my mom liked it, too, and thought it was very sad. I'm starting to like it a little more...I guess I thought it just sounded un-Lord-of-the-Ringish. At the end of the movie, my mind probably will have changed though... __________________ I'm sorry it wasn't a unicorn. It would have been nice to have unicorns. I'm your huckleberry.

11-12-2003, 12:03 PM	#21
Arathiriel Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Blessed Realm Posts: 284	I personally have started to love it as well - I especially loved the melody of the song, a melody which is hinted at in Track #15 <I>The Black Gate Opens</I>...<P>I can't wait to hear the song and indeed the soundtrack in its entire form! __________________ 'I love him. He's like that, and sometimes it shines through, somehow. But I love him, whether or no.' - Samwise Gamgee

11-13-2003, 04:20 PM	#22
Enorëiel Wight Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Hobbiton, U.S.A. Posts: 165	My first thoughts when I heard the very beginning of it "what? Moulin Rouge?" That only lasted for a second though. I do agree that is sounds a bit un-Lord-of-the-Ringsish but I also agree with Imladris <P> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>At the end of the movie, my mind probably will have changed <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>As soon as the movie is through I don't think I'll really care about what I was thinking right at this moment. __________________ You can take a hobbit out of the Shire but you can't take the Shire out of a hobbit. Whoever said "Nothing is impossible" never tried to slam a revolving door.

11-16-2003, 06:03 AM	#23
Daisy Brambleburr Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 334	I just listened to Into the West, and to be honest I didn't like it very much. Her voice seemed to harsh for the song, I'd imagined that it should be much more gentle. But the actual lyrics were nice and I liked the tune. I'm just not sure about Annie Lennox's voice. But maybe it will improve once I've listened to it a few times. I liked May it Be instantly, but Gollums Song took a while to grow on me, and I'm still not sure about the lyrics. But never mind, it'll probably improve with time!<p>[ November 16, 2003: Message edited by: Daisy Brambleburr ] __________________ 'What news from the South, O sighing wind, do you bring to me at eve? Where now is Boromir the Fair? He tarries and I grieve.'

11-16-2003, 11:24 AM	#24
Rose Cotton Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: A place worse then Mordor........School! Posts: 1,075	I liked it. In fact I think it's perfect for the end of RotK.<P>When the Fellowship ended "May it Be" fit because it was about hoping for a victory and a brighter day. It was sending Frodo and Sam on their journey to Mordor.<P>After Towers ended "Gollum's Song" was perfect because it centered around Smeagol. It reflected his constant struggle throughout the film and foreshadowed his betrayal.<P>This year, we'll come to the end with Return of the King. The whole audience will already be feeling sad. There will be a sence of loss. From what I've heard in "Into the West" it's a song that's ment to lift us back up. To give us a hopefull feeling. This is not the end. Only a wonderful new begaining.<P>That's my two cents. __________________ "There's nothing you can do, Harry... nothing... he's gone."-Remus Lupin "The closer we are to danger, the further we are from harm."-Pippin (now how can you argue with that logic?)

11-16-2003, 06:15 PM	#25
Amarantha_Daisy Wight Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Bag End... On Frodo's laptop. Shhhh! Don't tell! Posts: 240	You know what? I've actually become quite partial to this song...<P>It does take some getting used to. Or at least for me, but that's probably just because I was expecting a...softer voice. But now that I've listened to it more, it seems to be growing on me.<P>I'd love to hear the full version, and I'm sure it will work quite well in the movie. (or in the credits, I should say) I guess I was just a bit shocked when I first heard it. Was expecting something quite different... __________________ "I did not see the Balrog until I saw the film! He was -- it was -- just a yellow tennis ball on top of a pole for me to shout at. I felt like screaming 'You shall not bounce!'" ~Sir Ian McKellen October 20, 2005 - 1st Annual Golden Ring Marathon! Spread the Word!

11-17-2003, 09:01 PM	#26
HCIsland Zombie Cannibal Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,000	Well luckily OneRing has just posted the whole song.<P><A HREF="http://img-nex.theonering.net/sounds/Annie_Lennox_-_Into_The_West.rm" TARGET=_blank>Into the West</A><P>I just listened to it and if you do I think all arguments will end.<P>H.C. __________________ "Stir not the bitterness in the cup that I mixed myself. Have I not tasted it now many nights upon my tongue, foreboding that worse yet lay in the dregs." -Denethor

11-17-2003, 09:29 PM	#27
Arathiriel Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Blessed Realm Posts: 284	Oh I <B>LOVE</B> it!<P>It is a beautiful, haunting song IMNSHO! __________________ 'I love him. He's like that, and sometimes it shines through, somehow. But I love him, whether or no.' - Samwise Gamgee

11-17-2003, 11:44 PM	#28
Arathiriel Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Blessed Realm Posts: 284	Here are the lyrics someone posted over at ToRN - the only thing they're unsure of is the lyrics Dawn will fade" or "All will fade":<P>Lay down <BR>your sweet and weary head <BR>Night is falling, <BR>you have come to journey's end. <BR>Sleep now, <BR>and dream of the ones who came before. <BR>They are calling <BR>from across the distant shore. <P>Why do weep? <BR>What are these tears upon your face? <BR>Soon you will see <BR>all of your fears will pass away, <BR>safe in my arms <BR>you're only sleeping. <P>What can you see <BR>on the horizon? <BR>Why do the white gulls call? <BR>Across the sea <BR>a pale moon rises -- <BR>The ships have come to carry you home. <P>Dawn will turn <BR>to silver glass <BR>A light on the water <BR>All souls pass. <P>Hope fades <BR>into the world of night <BR>through shadows falling <BR>out of memory and time. <BR>Don't say, <BR>"We have come now to the end." <BR>White shores are calling <BR>you and I will meet again. <P>And you'll be here in my arms <BR>Just sleeping. <P>What can can you see <BR>on the horizon? <BR>Why do the white gulls call? <BR>Across the sea <BR>a pale moon rises -- <BR>The ships have come to carry you home. <P>And all will turn <BR>to silver glass <BR>A light on the water <BR>Grey ships pass <BR>Into the west. __________________ 'I love him. He's like that, and sometimes it shines through, somehow. But I love him, whether or no.' - Samwise Gamgee

11-18-2003, 12:16 AM	#29
ElenCala Isil Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Somewhere Else Posts: 439	I from the short segment, was fairly dissapointed in this song. I agree it didn't seem middle-earthy... I don't think it 'pulls at our heartstrings' as much as the others, which I think is sad, because it's the end of the whole epic trilogy. It just doesn't seem to give me the feeling I get when I read the books, but...I can't judge it too well, I haven't heard the whole thing, in context with the end of the previous song to see how it truly makes me feel... that's just my opinion on it so far. __________________ Prevent Merry-abuse today! Join the S.A.M. (That's the Save-A-Merry foundation) Rivendell brought to you by the long lost sister of the guy who be short.

11-18-2003, 06:27 AM	#30
Rose Cotton Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: A place worse then Mordor........School! Posts: 1,075	My reaction to the full song:<BR> <P><BR>I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<p>[ November 18, 2003: Message edited by: Rose Cotton ] __________________ "There's nothing you can do, Harry... nothing... he's gone."-Remus Lupin "The closer we are to danger, the further we are from harm."-Pippin (now how can you argue with that logic?)

11-18-2003, 09:04 AM	#31
Imladris Tears of the Phoenix Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Putting dimes in the jukebox baby. Posts: 1,453	That was so wonderful! Indescribably sad! My mum cried when listening to it and I became sad (but didn't cry). I think it's my favourite song out of the three (May it Be and Gollum's Song) __________________ I'm sorry it wasn't a unicorn. It would have been nice to have unicorns. I'm your huckleberry.

11-18-2003, 10:19 AM	#32
Esgallhugwen Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Where the Moon cries against the snow Posts: 526	Well, well well. May it be is my favourite song. when I first heard Gollum's song I thought it sounded as if it belonged to a James Bond movie. (like some of you have said) When I hear the new song thought I havn't heard the whole thing I do not like it at all! It seems too loud, and her vioce is...uummm what would be a good word. A little to masculine almost and it doesn't seem sad enough. I was hoping they would have another woman that sounded like Enya. She seems to have the perfect quality for singing LOR songs, she has that marveuosly haunting Elvish voice. With the Gollum song like I said above and also it sounded almost if Bjork sang it. But I have become not so much used to it that I have come to feel the saddness in it and such. Wow I'm having a really hard time trying to explain myself..Oh well I'll just have to listen to the rest of it.<P>But shelob's lair and ash and smoke are good the others are probably good too. Must listen. __________________ "...for the sin of the idolater is not that he worships stone, but that he worships one stone over others. -8:9:4 The Witness of Fane"

11-18-2003, 11:03 AM	#33
HCIsland Zombie Cannibal Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,000	I guess folks are just replying to the first post, but it seems at least a couple of people have missed that the whole song is now available. So in order to catch their attention ...<P> <P><A HREF="http://img-nex.theonering.net/sounds/Annie_Lennox_-_Into_The_West.rm" TARGET=_blank>THE WHOLE SONG!!!</A><P> <P>I really think that if you click on the link above, your worries will be laid aside.<P>H.C. __________________ "Stir not the bitterness in the cup that I mixed myself. Have I not tasted it now many nights upon my tongue, foreboding that worse yet lay in the dregs." -Denethor

11-18-2003, 11:37 AM	#34
Arathiriel Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Blessed Realm Posts: 284	LOL - You know I would love to sit in the theater after ROTK is over, and listen to this song and cry some more - yes I know the ending will have me bawling like a baby already - I would love to sit and listen but I suspect my bladder will be saying to me <B>"Get up ALREADY you MORON and go to the bathroom! I'm about to pop!"</B><P>Yes, I DO love this song - I truly do!!! __________________ 'I love him. He's like that, and sometimes it shines through, somehow. But I love him, whether or no.' - Samwise Gamgee

11-22-2003, 08:33 AM	#36
Aethelwine Wight Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: In Anórien, just outside Edoras, on a horse I "borrowed"... Posts: 150	Wow, wish I'd found this thread sooner!<P>What I heart of the small clip, I really loved it! My mom didn't, though. But she also didn't like Gollem's song.<P>BTW, thanks a whole lot HC!<BR>When I first listened to the full version, I was stuned! It's so beautifull!<P>HC, or anybody else who might now this, are there any full clips from the other songs from the soundtrack?<P>Navaer!<P>Aethelwine. __________________ Nelly, I am Heathcliff! He's always, always in my mind--not as a pleasure, any more than I am always a pleasure to myself, but as my own being. - Catherine to Nelly, Wuthering Heights