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Old 07-24-2020, 04:44 PM   #1
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Maybe the Variags were in the movies after all?

I remember reading Jackson didn't include them, because PJ had little to go to due to lack of description in the novels. But maybe they were merged in with many of the Haradrim tribes fighting for Sauron? Since Khand is neighbouring to the lands of Harad, it does make sense to me they look very similar?
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Old 07-24-2020, 07:11 PM   #2
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Kinda like how PJ didn't include the Dunedain of the North.

A lack of descriptive text wouldn't have stopped PJ from making up something... like Lorien elves at Helms Deep, etc.
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Old 06-14-2023, 09:18 PM   #3
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The Variags are not explicitly depicted or mentioned.
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Old 06-15-2023, 08:29 AM   #4
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Variags were from Khand, southeast of Mordor. They were probably not mentioned by name in the Movies. In fact, relatively few men were portrayed as part of Sauron's armies, other than those entering Mordor or ambushed by Faramir in Ithilien, and the Mumak riders on the Pelennor. The latter two were clearly Southrons, but the Men that Frodo and Sam hid from near the Morannon conceivably might have been Variags.
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Variags were from Khand, southeast of Mordor. They were probably not mentioned by name in the Movies. In fact, relatively few men were portrayed as part of Sauron's armies, other than those entering Mordor or ambushed by Faramir in Ithilien, and the Mumak riders on the Pelennor. The latter two were clearly Southrons, but the Men that Frodo and Sam hid from near the Morannon conceivably might have been Variags.
The way Jackson tortuously stretched and contorted the canon, say not Variags but Variables.
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Old 04-03-2024, 10:42 PM   #6
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While it's true that Jackson had limited descriptions to work with in the novels, he did make some creative decisions regarding the representation of various peoples and cultures in Middle-earth.

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