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Morsul the Dark · 08-19-2004, 03:35 PM

I was at work and two guys almost got into a fight maiinly becuase one guy was flirting with the other guy's girlfriend, and after the whole ordeal I thought to myself they should be more like Celeborn he didn't get jealous when Gimli was flirting with Galadriel.

He was not fond of Gimli because he was a dwarf first off and he was flirting with his wife... Why didnt he smack Gimli?

Why didn't Celeborn say anything about the whole thing? Was he jealous or did he let it go for the sake of the fllowship?

Imladris · 08-19-2004, 03:47 PM

I think that you are forgetting that Gimli's love for Galadriel was beyond a sexual love (thus he was not flirting). It was...a love of purity, I think. He adored her as the lady of the golden wood, and that was all. That is why Celeborn did not become angry.

Morsul the Dark · 08-19-2004, 03:52 PM

well I know it wasnt lust I do however think If I were Celeborn I might have been a little jealous dont you? "only if it is to look upon that which is fairest" Id be thinking "fairest and mine!"

Imladris · 08-19-2004, 04:15 PM

See...I don't think that Gimli meant fair as in, "You, baby, are the most beautiful lady on the earth."

The fair that Gimli meant was different than physical beauty or appearance. It was a higher fair than the sort of fair that you're thinking of. He loved her for her love and understanding:

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And the dwarf...looked up and met her eyes; and it seemed to him that he looked suddenly into the heart of an enemy and saw there love and understanding..."and the Lady Galadriel is above all jewels that lie beneath the earth!"

He's putting Galadriel above him I think. He's not worshipping her, but is using a love similiar to worship I think. She is above the jewels...she is more precious, better, more wonderful than the jewels of this earth. She is like the Lady Wisdom in the book of Proverbs.

The reason, I believe, that Celebron did not smack Gimli was because he knew that Gimli's love was purer than thinking she was just pretty. It was far far far beyond that.

Iris Alantiel · 08-19-2004, 07:13 PM

Perhaps Celeborn took it as a compliment and was pleased to think that his wife was "that which is fairest". Or perhaps he just didn't feel especially threatened by Gimli's dwarvish masculinity.

Boromir88 · 08-19-2004, 10:41 PM

Well not only Gimli, but Feanor also flirted with Galadriel, and Celeborn didn't do anything. I'm sure such a beautiful lady as Galadriel was, there were many more that flirted with her. Point is Celeborn being Teleri, and really the only reason his race is alive is because of Galadriel, I always thought he was a pushover. Yes, he was Galadriel's husband, I don't really know how to put this, but he always seemed like "Galadriel's a**wipe." Celeborn was a wise elf, but nothing compared to the noldor or even Elrond, and just always came off to me as a pushover. CELEBORN! Defend your woman for once!

P.S. Galdriel's theme song comes to me as Shanai Twain's "That don't impress me much." I mean with all the men she's had to turn down.

"So what your Brad pitt, that don't impress me much, you have the looks but have you got the touch..." aahhh great song.

08-19-2004, 03:35 PM	#1
Morsul the Dark Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,448	Smack The Dwarf! I was at work and two guys almost got into a fight maiinly becuase one guy was flirting with the other guy's girlfriend, and after the whole ordeal I thought to myself they should be more like Celeborn he didn't get jealous when Gimli was flirting with Galadriel. He was not fond of Gimli because he was a dwarf first off and he was flirting with his wife... Why didnt he smack Gimli? Why didn't Celeborn say anything about the whole thing? Was he jealous or did he let it go for the sake of the fllowship? __________________ Morsul the Resurrected

08-19-2004, 03:47 PM	#2
Imladris Tears of the Phoenix Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Putting dimes in the jukebox baby. Posts: 1,453	I think that you are forgetting that Gimli's love for Galadriel was beyond a sexual love (thus he was not flirting). It was...a love of purity, I think. He adored her as the lady of the golden wood, and that was all. That is why Celeborn did not become angry. __________________ I'm sorry it wasn't a unicorn. It would have been nice to have unicorns. I'm your huckleberry.

08-19-2004, 03:52 PM	#3
Morsul the Dark Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,448	well I know it wasnt lust I do however think If I were Celeborn I might have been a little jealous dont you? "only if it is to look upon that which is fairest" Id be thinking "fairest and mine!" __________________ Morsul the Resurrected

08-19-2004, 07:13 PM	#5
Iris Alantiel Haunting Spirit Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Valinor Posts: 97	Perhaps Celeborn took it as a compliment and was pleased to think that his wife was "that which is fairest". Or perhaps he just didn't feel especially threatened by Gimli's dwarvish masculinity. __________________ Above all shadows rides the Sun and Stars forever dwell: I will not say the Day is done, nor bid the Stars farewell. -- Samwise Gamgee

08-19-2004, 10:41 PM	#6
Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,518	Pushover Well not only Gimli, but Feanor also flirted with Galadriel, and Celeborn didn't do anything. I'm sure such a beautiful lady as Galadriel was, there were many more that flirted with her. Point is Celeborn being Teleri, and really the only reason his race is alive is because of Galadriel, I always thought he was a pushover. Yes, he was Galadriel's husband, I don't really know how to put this, but he always seemed like "Galadriel's a**wipe." Celeborn was a wise elf, but nothing compared to the noldor or even Elrond, and just always came off to me as a pushover. CELEBORN! Defend your woman for once! P.S. Galdriel's theme song comes to me as Shanai Twain's "That don't impress me much." I mean with all the men she's had to turn down. "So what your Brad pitt, that don't impress me much, you have the looks but have you got the touch..." aahhh great song.