Family Tree Trivia - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Eruwen · 12-02-2002, 09:06 PM

So, everyone who has read LOTR knows that there is a family tree of the Hobbits and others in the Appendices. There is also a few in The Silmarillion. I'm sure there are more in other books as well. This is a trivia to find which family member this person is. I'll start, and anyone can answer after that.

Ok. This one should be quite easy.

..:*In what relation is Arwen to Galadriel and Celeborn?*:..

Believe me, there is one. I found this out today.

Pallando B.C · 12-03-2002, 03:46 AM

Galadriel and Celeborn had a daughter named Celebrian. She married Elrond and they had Arwen. So Galadriel is Arwen's grandmother. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

[ December 03, 2002: Message edited by: Pallando B.C ]

Eruwen · 12-04-2002, 10:54 AM

Right. Sorry it took me so long to reply. Your turn.

Pallando B.C · 12-04-2002, 07:01 PM

Ok, if I were Elwing, what would Elwë be to me?

Tower of Moon and Shadow · 12-06-2002, 07:47 PM

The best I can tell it woul be your great Grandfather He and Melian had Luthien= Beren they had Dior He i belive married Nimolth And had Elwing or something like that
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Pallando B.C · 12-06-2002, 07:54 PM

Correct, you may proceed.

Tower of Moon and Shadow · 12-06-2002, 08:04 PM

In what way are Holman and Marigold linked Names please [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img] [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img] [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]smilies/cool.gif[/img] [img]smilies/confused.gif[/img]

[ December 06, 2002: Message edited by: Tower of Moon and Shadow ]

Pallando B.C · 12-06-2002, 08:17 PM

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In what way are Holman and Marigold linked Names please

I think they are linked when Marigold married Tolman Cotton. Holman is Tolman's father, so Marigold is Holman's daughter-in-law.

Tower of Moon and Shadow · 12-06-2002, 08:29 PM

That would be correct [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img]

Pallando B.C · 12-06-2002, 08:32 PM

What relation is Turin to Tuor?

Tower of Moon and Shadow · 12-06-2002, 08:48 PM

its his its his mothers,fathers,brothers daughters,son [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img] [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Eruwen · 12-07-2002, 10:06 AM

Would all of that mean it would be his 3rd cousin? I'm just trying to figure all of that out. Whoa... [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img]

Pallando B.C · 12-07-2002, 06:20 PM

You have to be more specific, Tower of Moon and Shadow. Think of their father's and it is really not that complicated.

Tower of Moon and Shadow · 12-07-2002, 10:26 PM

I belive that makes them third cousins

Pallando B.C · 12-07-2002, 11:20 PM

Sorry, incorrect.

the real findorfin · 12-09-2002, 09:55 AM

Hurin and Huor are brothers.

Turin his Hurin's son, Tuor is Huor's son.

This makes them 1st Cousins!

Pallando B.C · 12-09-2002, 04:19 PM

Good Job, the real findorfin.

It was pretty easy wasn't it.

the real findorfin · 12-09-2002, 05:14 PM

yeh, quite easy (but only if you know!)

Name Elendil's father and grand-father.

Tower of Moon and Shadow · 12-09-2002, 05:54 PM

Amindal is his father.Vardamir is his grand father

the real findorfin · 12-09-2002, 05:59 PM

Yes I suppose, but wrong Elendil. I was referring to the Lord of Andunie that escaped the Sinking of Numenor, not the King of Numenor many centuries before.

sorry for the confusion!

Pallando B.C · 12-14-2002, 10:56 PM

Tower of Moon and Shadow seems to be on a holiday, so I will continue, since this topic is good!

Which marriage connected the Houses of Olwë and Elwë?

the real findorfin · 12-15-2002, 06:54 AM

Elrond and Celebrian?

Elrond was Elwe's great,great grandson and Celebrian was Olwe's great grandaughter.

By the way, no one has correctly answered my question, Who were Elendil's (as in isildur's father) Father and Grandfather?

Pallando B.C · 12-15-2002, 06:30 PM

You are correct.

Also, the answer to your question is ( I think):

Vardamir
I
Amandil
I
Elendil

Pallando B.C · 12-19-2002, 04:27 PM

It's your go, the real findorfin

the real findorfin · 12-19-2002, 04:50 PM

Thats still not right!

Amandil is correct but Vardamir was not his father, who was????

Pallando B.C · 12-19-2002, 09:08 PM

Someone from the Lords of Andúnië?

Maybe Arendell?

[ December 19, 2002: Message edited by: Pallando B.C ]

the real findorfin · 12-20-2002, 10:01 AM

Yes, a Lord of Andunie (they all were!). If nobody gets it before tomorrow I'll tell you!

Pallando B.C · 12-20-2002, 04:53 PM

Gee, I feel dumb.

But I can't remember reading it, and it's not recorded anywhere in my books.

Ok, last guess....Valandil

[ December 20, 2002: Message edited by: Pallando B.C ]

the real findorfin · 12-21-2002, 02:28 AM

Nope, heres the answer, but I don't know where I got it from! I did family trees of all he major lines a while back but have forgotten the source.

NUMENDIL
|
AMANDIL
|
ELENDIL

Good guesses though! I suppose Pallando it is your turn!
(gloats...nobody got my question, heehee)

Pallando B.C · 12-25-2002, 04:10 AM

Good job, It's hard to trick people here.

Ok, If I was Gimli, who who be my Great Uncle's Grandfather?

the real findorfin · 12-25-2002, 03:37 PM

Oh damn, I'm only good at elvish and mannish family trees, darn!

I guess I'll have to leave it.

Beren87 · 12-25-2002, 04:25 PM

Would it be Borin?

Pallando B.C · 12-25-2002, 09:36 PM

Yes, well done!

Beren87 · 12-25-2002, 10:03 PM

Thank ye!

Who was the mother of Saradoc Brandybuck?

Thengise Greenleaf of Mirkwood · 12-25-2002, 10:12 PM

Would the mother be Menegilda Goold?

Beren87 · 12-25-2002, 11:47 PM

Well...Menegilda Brandybuck, because she married before having the children I assume, but yes.

Thengise Greenleaf of Mirkwood · 12-25-2002, 11:58 PM

Oops sorry, but thanks for giving it to me.

Who's the grandmother of Lotho Sackville-Baggins on his father's side?

Pallando B.C · 12-26-2002, 02:36 AM

Longo?

Thengise Greenleaf of Mirkwood · 12-27-2002, 12:49 AM

Close! Though that would be his grandfather not his grandmother.

Beren87 · 12-27-2002, 01:07 AM

Would it be Camellia Sackville?

[ December 27, 2002: Message edited by: Beren87 ]

12-02-2002, 09:06 PM	#1
Eruwen Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 892	Family Tree Trivia So, everyone who has read LOTR knows that there is a family tree of the Hobbits and others in the Appendices. There is also a few in The Silmarillion. I'm sure there are more in other books as well. This is a trivia to find which family member this person is. I'll start, and anyone can answer after that. Ok. This one should be quite easy. ..:In what relation is Arwen to Galadriel and Celeborn?:.. Believe me, there is one. I found this out today.

12-03-2002, 03:46 AM	#2
Pallando B.C Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Rhûn, Tasmania Posts: 521	Galadriel and Celeborn had a daughter named Celebrian. She married Elrond and they had Arwen. So Galadriel is Arwen's grandmother. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] [ December 03, 2002: Message edited by: Pallando B.C ] __________________ {JHart} Support The Aussies!

12-04-2002, 07:01 PM	#4
Pallando B.C Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Rhûn, Tasmania Posts: 521	Ok, if I were Elwing, what would Elwë be to me? __________________ {JHart} Support The Aussies!

12-06-2002, 07:47 PM	#5
Tower of Moon and Shadow Pile O'Bones Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Minas Tirith Posts: 14	The best I can tell it woul be your great Grandfather He and Melian had Luthien= Beren they had Dior He i belive married Nimolth And had Elwing or something like that [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ The Shadow Will Take You And Consume You Making Your Part Of My World.

12-06-2002, 07:54 PM	#6
Pallando B.C Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Rhûn, Tasmania Posts: 521	Correct, you may proceed. __________________ {JHart} Support The Aussies!

12-04-2002, 10:54 AM	#3
Eruwen Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 892	Right. Sorry it took me so long to reply. Your turn.

12-06-2002, 08:04 PM	#7
Tower of Moon and Shadow Pile O'Bones Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Minas Tirith Posts: 14	In what way are Holman and Marigold linked Names please [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img] [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img] [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]smilies/cool.gif[/img] [img]smilies/confused.gif[/img] [ December 06, 2002: Message edited by: Tower of Moon and Shadow ] __________________ The Shadow Will Take You And Consume You Making Your Part Of My World.

12-06-2002, 08:29 PM	#9
Tower of Moon and Shadow Pile O'Bones Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Minas Tirith Posts: 14	That would be correct [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img] __________________ The Shadow Will Take You And Consume You Making Your Part Of My World.

12-06-2002, 08:32 PM	#10
Pallando B.C Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Rhûn, Tasmania Posts: 521	What relation is Turin to Tuor? __________________ {JHart} Support The Aussies!

12-06-2002, 08:48 PM	#11
Tower of Moon and Shadow Pile O'Bones Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Minas Tirith Posts: 14	its his its his mothers,fathers,brothers daughters,son [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img] [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ The Shadow Will Take You And Consume You Making Your Part Of My World.

12-07-2002, 10:06 AM	#12
Eruwen Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 892	Would all of that mean it would be his 3rd cousin? I'm just trying to figure all of that out. Whoa... [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img]

12-07-2002, 06:20 PM	#13
Pallando B.C Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Rhûn, Tasmania Posts: 521	You have to be more specific, Tower of Moon and Shadow. Think of their father's and it is really not that complicated. __________________ {JHart} Support The Aussies!

12-07-2002, 10:26 PM	#14
Tower of Moon and Shadow Pile O'Bones Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Minas Tirith Posts: 14	I belive that makes them third cousins __________________ The Shadow Will Take You And Consume You Making Your Part Of My World.

12-07-2002, 11:20 PM	#15
Pallando B.C Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Rhûn, Tasmania Posts: 521	Sorry, incorrect. __________________ {JHart} Support The Aussies!

12-09-2002, 09:55 AM	#16
the real findorfin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Mirkwood Posts: 514	Hurin and Huor are brothers. Turin his Hurin's son, Tuor is Huor's son. This makes them 1st Cousins! __________________ Legends of Middle Earth

12-09-2002, 04:19 PM	#17
Pallando B.C Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Rhûn, Tasmania Posts: 521	Good Job, the real findorfin. It was pretty easy wasn't it. __________________ {JHart} Support The Aussies!

12-09-2002, 05:14 PM	#18
the real findorfin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Mirkwood Posts: 514	yeh, quite easy (but only if you know!) Name Elendil's father and grand-father. __________________ Legends of Middle Earth

12-09-2002, 05:54 PM	#19
Tower of Moon and Shadow Pile O'Bones Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Minas Tirith Posts: 14	Amindal is his father.Vardamir is his grand father __________________ The Shadow Will Take You And Consume You Making Your Part Of My World.

12-09-2002, 05:59 PM	#20
the real findorfin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Mirkwood Posts: 514	Yes I suppose, but wrong Elendil. I was referring to the Lord of Andunie that escaped the Sinking of Numenor, not the King of Numenor many centuries before. sorry for the confusion! __________________ Legends of Middle Earth

12-14-2002, 10:56 PM	#21
Pallando B.C Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Rhûn, Tasmania Posts: 521	Tower of Moon and Shadow seems to be on a holiday, so I will continue, since this topic is good! Which marriage connected the Houses of Olwë and Elwë? __________________ {JHart} Support The Aussies!

12-15-2002, 06:54 AM	#22
the real findorfin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Mirkwood Posts: 514	Elrond and Celebrian? Elrond was Elwe's great,great grandson and Celebrian was Olwe's great grandaughter. By the way, no one has correctly answered my question, Who were Elendil's (as in isildur's father) Father and Grandfather? __________________ Legends of Middle Earth

12-15-2002, 06:30 PM	#23
Pallando B.C Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Rhûn, Tasmania Posts: 521	You are correct. Also, the answer to your question is ( I think): Vardamir I Amandil I Elendil __________________ {JHart} Support The Aussies!

12-19-2002, 04:27 PM	#24
Pallando B.C Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Rhûn, Tasmania Posts: 521	It's your go, the real findorfin __________________ {JHart} Support The Aussies!

12-19-2002, 04:50 PM	#25
the real findorfin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Mirkwood Posts: 514	Thats still not right! Amandil is correct but Vardamir was not his father, who was???? __________________ Legends of Middle Earth

12-19-2002, 09:08 PM	#26
Pallando B.C Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Rhûn, Tasmania Posts: 521	Someone from the Lords of Andúnië? Maybe Arendell? [ December 19, 2002: Message edited by: Pallando B.C ] __________________ {JHart} Support The Aussies!

12-20-2002, 10:01 AM	#27
the real findorfin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Mirkwood Posts: 514	Yes, a Lord of Andunie (they all were!). If nobody gets it before tomorrow I'll tell you! __________________ Legends of Middle Earth

12-20-2002, 04:53 PM	#28
Pallando B.C Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Rhûn, Tasmania Posts: 521	Gee, I feel dumb. But I can't remember reading it, and it's not recorded anywhere in my books. Ok, last guess....Valandil [ December 20, 2002: Message edited by: Pallando B.C ] __________________ {JHart} Support The Aussies!

12-21-2002, 02:28 AM	#29
the real findorfin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Mirkwood Posts: 514	Nope, heres the answer, but I don't know where I got it from! I did family trees of all he major lines a while back but have forgotten the source. NUMENDIL \| AMANDIL \| ELENDIL Good guesses though! I suppose Pallando it is your turn! (gloats...nobody got my question, heehee) __________________ Legends of Middle Earth

12-25-2002, 04:10 AM	#30
Pallando B.C Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Rhûn, Tasmania Posts: 521	Good job, It's hard to trick people here. Ok, If I was Gimli, who who be my Great Uncle's Grandfather? __________________ {JHart} Support The Aussies!

12-25-2002, 03:37 PM	#31
the real findorfin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Mirkwood Posts: 514	Oh damn, I'm only good at elvish and mannish family trees, darn! I guess I'll have to leave it. __________________ Legends of Middle Earth

12-25-2002, 04:25 PM	#32
Beren87 Master of the Secret Fire Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Between fire and ice, death and life Posts: 2,241	Would it be Borin?

12-25-2002, 09:36 PM	#33
Pallando B.C Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Rhûn, Tasmania Posts: 521	Yes, well done! __________________ {JHart} Support The Aussies!

12-25-2002, 10:03 PM	#34
Beren87 Master of the Secret Fire Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Between fire and ice, death and life Posts: 2,241	Thank ye! Who was the mother of Saradoc Brandybuck?

12-25-2002, 10:12 PM	#35
Thengise Greenleaf of Mirkwood Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Mirkwood, my kingdom Posts: 404	Would the mother be Menegilda Goold? __________________ Thengise Greenleaf daughter of Legolas Greenleaf. My heart and soul belong to Judge Simon.

12-25-2002, 11:47 PM	#36
Beren87 Master of the Secret Fire Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Between fire and ice, death and life Posts: 2,241	Well...Menegilda Brandybuck, because she married before having the children I assume, but yes.