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08-23-2014, 03:36 AM | #1 |
Shade of Carn Dûm
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Why Frodo is so misunderstood and underrated character?
Okay, this has been my question since the day I finished the books last year and joined the Facebook pages of LotR. It's quite common to see people degrading Frodo most of the time. Like, "Frodo wouldn't have made it without Sam," "Frodo's quest would have been in vain if not for Gollum." or "Frodo didn't do a ****.." and blah blah! Many, I see, completly misinterprete his character. For example there was a thread entitled Failure and Punishment where the author of the book (whose ideas about Frodo were reason of the thread) made many silly comments. Rest, I see people talking about him from start to the end in all the negative terms: His decision to go to Mordor in Rivendell is said to be his desire to not being able to part with the Ring; while in reality it is complete the opposite. His mercy for Gollum is said to be "his selfish desire to have a way for himself to survive" while books speak completly the opposite. His so-called failure is deemed as a sign "of weakness" and by some "of pride". Books completly speak otherwise. His sacrifice is said to be of lesser degree than it actually is. And worst of all, his departure from ME is believed to be "his desire to enjoy the life/bliss in the UL." While reading the books, I nowhere got these ideas, so how come many readers ignore there facts clearly written the book and degrade Frodo?
I really apologise for the thoughts not being not proper for now. I hope it all made sense.
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P.S. It would be neat if you adress the, so called, clearly written facts. Often times you claim that the book says the complete opposite. Maybe you could give us examples of this, or explicate. In many cases I really donīt know what you a refering to and just stating that they are there is not very helpful. Last edited by Leaf; 08-23-2014 at 03:58 PM. |
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08-23-2014, 06:53 AM | #4 |
Haunting Spirit
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Well, the problem for me is that I never saw anyone making such claims until you brought them up in this thread. For all I know this could be strawman arguments. But I woulnd't really care if this is indeed the case either. Frodo's reputation among readers doesn't concern me at all. I just wanted to answer to some of your statements in a contentual fashion. I'm really not interested in a discussion about who is blaming Frodo or if Frodo deserves the blame.
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08-23-2014, 08:15 AM | #5 |
Haunting Spirit
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Perhaps some people critisize Frodo because they fundamentally dont understand the depth of his character, or they see him through the corrupting lens of 21st century values, ie heros MUST be big butch sword weilding aggressive types. They MUST be manly if they are male, they are expecting Frodo to 'man up' and kick some butt. He doesnt. He is gentle and vulnerable to the bitter end. He is an unlikely hero and some people just dont get it. Its their loss.
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08-23-2014, 08:33 AM | #6 |
Haunting Spirit
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You are confusing me, FerniesApple. According to your last post in the Movie area Book-Frodo is an aggressive guy who's fighting alot. Now it's the complete opposite?! Or are you talking about the movies, again? Besides I have never seen anyone complaining that Frodo should go full Conan. This is such an absurd claim...
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