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As we reach the season finale, questions will be answered and answers will be questioned.
Play by Play Thoughts: - Always appreciate a good volcano scene, but not surprising the amount of survivors. - Isildur's demise is obviously a fake out for those who know the books. - Beginning to see more signs that the Stranger is one of the Istari, or maybe they might go for a deep dive and create Tom Bombadil(I imagine the Stranger would start collecting Tom's iconic wardrobe one by one) - Out of all the locations, I have been liking the Dwarven ones the most. The Durin's have showed some good emotion and passion. - Half way through the episode and there isn't any mention of Halbrand? That seems... really weird. - We get our first Celeborn namedrop, who married her when he stumbled upon her dancing and that was the last time she saw him? I don't think that is how marriages work. Also didn't like the meaning that he is dead, but that probably means he is captured somewhere and will be rescued by Galadriel. - Okay, that one was a bit on Nori for alerting the seekers. But, I understand that she was trying to protect the Stranger. - they sure do like reusing cliches - twice they used the "that person looks like who I am looking for from a far andddd it's not them" - Weird to not have Arondir and Bronwyn show up until near the end, but i get the emotional point. But having no mention of Halbrand at all just feels the worst. Last episode ended on the "King of the Southlands" and now this is all "Remember whats-his-name? Hell-Brad?" - Heh, line callback to Boromir. - "Harfoots stick together! Except that time my family and I were left behind" - Harfoot Fellowship! - Pelargir mentioned, also first time of "Old Numenorean Settlements" I think. This might make the Southlanders as Proto-Gondorians. - And there it is, the "Oh yeah, what about Halbrand" moment. - Galadriel taking Halbrand to the elves for healing might be the Annatar introduction of Celebrimbor, if Halbrand proves to be Sauron. - Durin's Bane emerges. - Seems like Adar is doing all the work for Sauron to copy his homework. Final Thoughts: - Another choppy episode of poor writing and pacing, but glad to see things moving and developing. I have a feeling that we are only going to see the rings of power as a drawing in Celebrimbor's hands in the season finale at this point. With two episodes left (I believe) I am either expecting it to pick up, or leave it with a cliffhanger for the second season. If the latter is the case, that would make for an overall disappointing first season. Especially given that showrunners/actors have already said that we are not going to find out the true identity of the Stranger, and Sauron, this season. - For the episode itself, the timing of finding out if characters are alive or dead was really off for me and felt a bit lazy, or forgetful.
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More than a few parallels between my list of thoughts and Gil-galad's...
Overall, I think I'm more exasperated at the snowballing of annoyances now, as the season goes on, but my expectations have found the right level for the show, so this isn't resulting (yet?) in a higher level of overall dissatisfaction
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It might be a reshoot that was edited in for some reason.
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Join Date: Feb 2003
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Oh no. Peril. Anyway.
"Trees don't talk!" "SOME do!" "the dwarves dug too greedily and too deep" for FRIENDSHIP (Hmmmm, is Disa getting a little greedy though?) "How much longer until we are clear of this smoke (that nobody at all has coughed from)" "Silver clam" ok that's a little funny. It's a good thing Elrond has enough mithril to make an elven ring or three. That'll save all the elves just in the nick of time, but not before several fakeout deaths and reveals. I'm tired of fakeout deaths and reveals. This episode was maybe the most meh of them all for me. Quote:
Aren't we all? Halbrand's arc this episode was the longest fakeout death and reveal of them all. Also when are they going to address that Bronwyn and Theo are possibly the only healers in the village? When are they going to heal anyone????
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And this week, we have seen her relentless bloodlust in killing orcs, then she tells Theo not to enjoy killing orcs. I feel like they are trying to show character growth, but doing it in the most asinine way, like breaking the writers Cardinal rule of "Show don't tell".
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Well, my friends who don't know the lore are still enjoying the series more than I have. It seems more like a world-building season for new fans, and not a season for folks like us.
But even they have said they don't get the purpose of teasing Isildur's death. Because they are at least familiar with the movies, and know he's not going to be dead. It was a poor choice of character to try to tease being dead. That is one of the essential problems of "prequel" movies and shows. In Kenobi, we all know Obi-wan, Leia, and Vader aren't going to die, so it's kind of difficult to have drama built around convincing the fans those characters are going to die. The Kenobi characters managed to navigate around those difficulties and make a fantastic Season 1. It left me wanting a Season 2, even though I know now it will probably be disappointing, because where does the show go from there? It was already a perfect conclusion to the Obi-wan/Vader tension. Rings of Power is not making good decisions by trying to fake us with Isildur's death and Celeborn's death. Celeborn is a little more niche, but Isildur has an iconic moment that even the non-hardcore fans remember. It's just silly to try to convince us he's dead. That's all I have time for at the moment. As a Tolkien fan, Season 1 is rather dull. Episodes 3 and 4 were the strongest, but it's been regressing. I'm enjoying more my non-Tolkien friends think it's interesting and answering their questions than actually watching the series.
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We watched this together with the finale, so more thoughts on that thread...
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I've actually seen some young'uns say they've never seen the PJ movies. I would guess this adaptation is for them, but I'm not sure how common that lack of experience is.
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Join Date: Nov 2006
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I actually believe that this adaptation is for those who have seen PJ, because they work as a prequel to PJ's LotR much more than as prequel to actual Tolkien. Thinking of all the contradictions to canon etc (and I mean just the contradictions in the actual part of the canon the showmakers had access to!), I think that this show would work the best for those who have seen PJ but haven't read the books, not even the appendices.
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