vBulletin 3.0 Gold Questions - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

***The Barrow-Wight*** · 03-20-2004, 05:12 PM

We've upgraded to the new vBulletin 3.0 Gold version, and I'm sure there will be lots of questions. Ask them here.

The Perky Ent · 03-20-2004, 05:30 PM

Will it be permanent? Because quite frankly, i hate it. It completly throws off the mood that i used to have every time i got on the downs.

Also, what's with the green and blue dots by my avatar when i post?

***The Barrow-Wight*** · 03-20-2004, 05:34 PM

As the announcement on every forum says, no, it will not be permanent. We are working on getting the graphics back in order. I just thought I'd open it up so people could continue to post.

Firefoot · 03-20-2004, 06:03 PM

Why does it say "registered user" next to some people's names instead of "Shade of Carn Dûm" or whatever their title is?

Another thing, I was posting in the Quotable Quotes/Quiz Room and I tried to post and got a message that said something like "you can't post because your message is under ten characters" but just before that I had posted an equally short post and didn't get that message. Does a quote not count for message length?

Diamond18 · 03-20-2004, 06:16 PM

Personally, I really like the way it looks right now... I don't really notice that many shocking differences; just positive ones... it seems less crowded and more "open"... um... that doesn't make a lot of sense, but I suppose it doesn't matter because I'm probably the only one that's liking it right now. I like it better than the UBB and other VBulletin version. I like it that the messages cover the whole screen instead of being shoved to the right. I even like the blue lines. I hope you don't "fix" it too much....

The only thing I don't like is that it ate my message the first time I tried to post here. Oh well.

What is the difference between Guided Mode and Enhanced Mode? I don't noticed a change toggling between the two.

Vuelve · 03-20-2004, 07:47 PM

What the heck! I just got used to using the forum after the last upgrade. Now I'm all lost again.I was just here earlier and everything was fine; this is well quite shocking to say the least.Hope your iron out the graphics because right now (please don't kill me) it looks like crap.I'm not a big fan of the blue lines.Right now Its rather intimidating.I'm afraid to do anything; it looks like it could blow up or something.

Sorry for my rant,
Vuelve

LePetitChoux · 03-22-2004, 03:46 PM

Aah, but (going back to my wee avatar problem) I did click on the "Edit Avatar" link and it gave me this lovely message:

Your Current Avatar

No Avatar Specified

Avatars are small graphics that are displayed under your username whenever you post.

Do not use an avatar

Note: if you have a custom avatar selecting this option will delete it.

And that, as they say, is it. No box to put in my URL, no option of uploading, nothing.

**The Saucepan Man** · 03-22-2004, 05:45 PM

Aha! All is revealed (or not

). Thanks pio and Underhillo.

What about the lower limit to the number of words in a message, though? Is that still an issue? And, if so, is it possible to remove it (at least for the Quiz and Quotes Rooms)?

Also, what's with the green box after each member's post count telling me (when my cursor hovers over it) that they have started the path to adventure?

Firefoot · 03-22-2004, 06:01 PM

Saucepan Man - I think the green box is like User Ratings on UBB because under "member list" everyone has a green box under the column "reputation." And also there is a little icon that looks like a scale underneath everyone's name that if you hover the mouse over it says "Add to _____'s reputation." If you click on it you get a little thing that says (I clicked on yours):

Reputation
Add to Reputation: The Saucepan Man
What do you think of The Saucepan Man's post?
I approve
I disapprove
Your comments on this post:

So my guess is it is like user rating. But "_____ has started the road to adventure" is a really weird caption.

Gorwingel · 03-22-2004, 07:06 PM

But about the Reputation... Where can you actually read the messages about your "reputation"? Or are they destined to stay a mystery forever?

Liriodendron · 03-22-2004, 07:27 PM

Actually, I think this version is VERY cool! I wish I had a lot of free time to explore.

Everybody's avatars look very beautiful.

Ainaserkewen · 03-25-2004, 10:35 AM

Sorry if this was asked already...

Did a lot of old posts and threads get deleted? I remember my post count over a four hundred but now I'm at 399. It doesn't matter, I'm just curious.

symestreem · 03-25-2004, 12:18 PM

Is this new version inhabited by something hungry? At first I thought I was imagining it, but now I'm pretty sure that it's eating some of my posts. (If this doesn't appear, I'll KNOW...

). I suppose the moderators could be deleting them, but I haven't been posting anything offensive. Is this happening to anyone else, or am I alone and deserted in the lonely, cruel, and desolate world?

When I tried to submit this with four "smilies", I got this message:

Quote:

You have included too many images in your signature or in your previous post. Please go back and correct the problem and then continue again.

Images include use of smilies, the vB code [img] tag and HTML <img> tags. The use of these is all subject to them being enabled by the administrator.

Have we been given a smiley allowance??????

***Sharkû*** · 03-25-2004, 12:47 PM

The 'post shrinkage' already happened in the move from UBB to VBulletin, as you can see in the older VB Questions thread, and is due to the fact that VBulleting excluded some old posts (in closed threads and for IIRC) from counting towards your total. I lost exactly 400 posts, for example.

I can't see how new posts get lost; certainly not if they did actually appear and it wasn't a software/connection error. Please verify that and report back.

The max number of images in a thread makes sense IMO. Perhaps smilies could be excluded from it, but why should they.

symestreem · 03-25-2004, 01:46 PM

Submitting something to a forum is like sending an email; the people who read your message can't read your body language, and they can't hear your tone of voice. Most of us are not skilled enough as writers to always express sarcasm/kidding/whatever else in our posts; smileys help us do that and save a whole lot of confusion, and possibly offense. If you have a large post, or are trying to express a "compound emotion" (like:

) it stands to reason that you will have more than three smileys in a post.

***The Barrow-Wight*** · 03-25-2004, 01:49 PM

The smiley limit gives everyone the excuse to improve the emotional writing

piosenniel · 04-14-2004, 11:54 AM

Someone walk me through this version:

On the last version I had the opportunity to look at my Buddy List and send a PM from it. Now when I look at the buddy list it simply lists the names as black text on a white background with no way of clicking on one or a number of them to send a PM.

Am I missing a way to send PM's directly from the Buddy List?

~*~ Pio

_______________________________________

EDIT: Thank you kindly, BW!

(answer below)

~*~ Pio, blind as a bat at times . . .

***The Barrow-Wight*** · 04-14-2004, 12:03 PM

Go to QUICK LINKS and choose OPEN BUDDY List.
Click the box by the buddy you want to PM.
Click the PM USERS button.

Sleeping Beauty · 04-16-2004, 03:57 PM

Just a quick question: You know little preview box that comes up when you hover or just click once on threads, why does it only show up on posts I haven't read yet and not on posts that I have? Is it just a board thing for new posts or is my computer just being random?

Gorwingel · 04-28-2004, 09:17 PM

Ok, I just have a quick, little question...

Now I know that the little green box (the one that says "Gorwingel has started on the path to adventure... blah..blah" when you put your cursor over it) has been asked about before, and that we kind of know what it is for. But I was just wondering... today I was just doing my regular reading of various threads, and I noticed that Saucepan Man had two little green boxes instead of just one! *gasp*

Now is the extra box because of Saucepan Man having many messages in his reputations, or is it because of something else?

An answer would be greatly appreciated

mark12_30 · 05-11-2004, 08:05 PM

It's because he's "As faithful as Samwise." So's Esty, now, I think.

Barrow Wight-- the way that PM'ing is set up right now, the system automatically saves a copy of each PM I send, unless I remember to tell it not to. It also defaults to "Ask For Read Receipt", or whatever it's called.

I've looked for a way to default these to OFF and I haven't found one yet. Any suggestions?

Galadriel55 · 04-25-2011, 09:56 PM

I don't know if this is the right place to ask, but I've noticed that a few posts disappeared off some different threads over the course of less than 6 hours. It's about 3 or 4 (I'm not really sure) posts - a bit too much in such a short time period to be a coincidence. It didn't seem like there was anything wrong with the posts either...

Also, my smileys are somehow messed up. They work, but they are in a different order than they used to be. It's nothing important, but it sort of gets on my nerves to have them rearranged after you get used to them being in their places...

Is it my computer playing tricks on me again, or does some one else have the same thing?

EDIT: I went through more threads today, and realised that way more posts are missing.

Mithalwen · 04-26-2011, 09:42 AM

I know that deliberately deleted posts can be resurrected since Pio the blessed and merciful bailed me out not so long ago when I accidentally deleted one by accident so is there any chance that they are merely mislaid rather than permanently lost?

piosenniel · 04-26-2011, 09:58 AM

I did read your missing post last evening in the Inn, Mith. But now when I look at that thread, it is well and truly gone - nothing left for me to retrieve.

I noticed we can't rate threads in the game forum, either.

Anyway, I PM'd Mister Underhill to see if maybe he can sort out the glitch.

~*~ Pio

Mithalwen · 04-27-2011, 02:15 AM

Thanks for trying Pio. I am quite relieved it did actually exist and it could have been a lot worse - as on the scale of the last time. Guess I had better just get on with the rewrite...

***Mister Underhill*** · 04-27-2011, 11:00 AM

Got your PM, pio. I don't have a clue what might've happened. Sounds like one of those weird things we've had in the past where the server somehow got out of sync. Assuming only posts made during that window have gone missing and that this isn't an ongoing problem, my guess is that something happened with our hosting service. Either way, BW is really the go-to guy for server problems and/or any possible corruption of the actual forum software. The admins are all rather treeish these days, as you know, but I'm pretty sure BW still checks in on a fairly regular basis. I'll PM him to make sure he has a heads-up too.

In the meantime, continue to report any irregularities here. If there's more stuff, I'll probably break this thread off into a new one. As always when it comes to technical difficulties, the more specific you can be, the better.

03-20-2004, 05:12 PM	#1
*The Barrow-Wight* Night In Wight Satin Join Date: May 2000 Posts: 4,043	vBulletin 3.0 Gold Questions We've upgraded to the new vBulletin 3.0 Gold version, and I'm sure there will be lots of questions. Ask them here. __________________ The Barrow-Wight

03-20-2004, 05:30 PM	#2
The Perky Ent Maniacal Mage Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Setting sail for Umbar, with Firefoot at my side! Posts: 3,297	Will it be permanent? Because quite frankly, i hate it. It completly throws off the mood that i used to have every time i got on the downs. Also, what's with the green and blue dots by my avatar when i post? __________________ 'But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.'

03-20-2004, 05:34 PM	#3
*The Barrow-Wight* Night In Wight Satin Join Date: May 2000 Posts: 4,043	As the announcement on every forum says, no, it will not be permanent. We are working on getting the graphics back in order. I just thought I'd open it up so people could continue to post. __________________ The Barrow-Wight

03-20-2004, 06:16 PM	#5
Diamond18 Eidolon of a Took Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: my own private fantasy world Posts: 3,460	Personally, I really like the way it looks right now... I don't really notice that many shocking differences; just positive ones... it seems less crowded and more "open"... um... that doesn't make a lot of sense, but I suppose it doesn't matter because I'm probably the only one that's liking it right now. I like it better than the UBB and other VBulletin version. I like it that the messages cover the whole screen instead of being shoved to the right. I even like the blue lines. I hope you don't "fix" it too much.... The only thing I don't like is that it ate my message the first time I tried to post here. Oh well. What is the difference between Guided Mode and Enhanced Mode? I don't noticed a change toggling between the two. __________________ All shall be rather fond of me and suffer from mild depression.

03-20-2004, 07:47 PM	#6
Vuelve Wight Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: A portal to an alternate dimension at your local Wal-Mart store. Posts: 161	What the heck! I just got used to using the forum after the last upgrade. Now I'm all lost again.I was just here earlier and everything was fine; this is well quite shocking to say the least.Hope your iron out the graphics because right now (please don't kill me) it looks like crap.I'm not a big fan of the blue lines.Right now Its rather intimidating.I'm afraid to do anything; it looks like it could blow up or something. Sorry for my rant, Vuelve __________________ Now, what do you own the world? How do you own disorder? Disorder! - Toxicity-System of A Down

03-20-2004, 06:03 PM	#4
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	Why does it say "registered user" next to some people's names instead of "Shade of Carn Dûm" or whatever their title is? Another thing, I was posting in the Quotable Quotes/Quiz Room and I tried to post and got a message that said something like "you can't post because your message is under ten characters" but just before that I had posted an equally short post and didn't get that message. Does a quote not count for message length?

03-22-2004, 03:46 PM	#7
LePetitChoux Vegetable of Doom Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: London Posts: 720	Aah, but (going back to my wee avatar problem) I did click on the "Edit Avatar" link and it gave me this lovely message: Your Current Avatar No Avatar Specified Avatars are small graphics that are displayed under your username whenever you post. Do not use an avatar Note: if you have a custom avatar selecting this option will delete it. And that, as they say, is it. No box to put in my URL, no option of uploading, nothing. __________________ je suis une bonne odeur

03-22-2004, 05:45 PM	#8
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Aha! All is revealed (or not ). Thanks pio and Underhillo. What about the lower limit to the number of words in a message, though? Is that still an issue? And, if so, is it possible to remove it (at least for the Quiz and Quotes Rooms)? Also, what's with the green box after each member's post count telling me (when my cursor hovers over it) that they have started the path to adventure? __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

03-22-2004, 06:01 PM	#9
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	Saucepan Man - I think the green box is like User Ratings on UBB because under "member list" everyone has a green box under the column "reputation." And also there is a little icon that looks like a scale underneath everyone's name that if you hover the mouse over it says "Add to _____'s reputation." If you click on it you get a little thing that says (I clicked on yours): Reputation Add to Reputation: The Saucepan Man What do you think of The Saucepan Man's post? I approve I disapprove Your comments on this post: So my guess is it is like user rating. But "_____ has started the road to adventure" is a really weird caption.

03-22-2004, 07:06 PM	#10
Gorwingel Beholder of the Mists Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Somewhere in the Northwest... for now Posts: 1,419	But about the Reputation... Where can you actually read the messages about your "reputation"? Or are they destined to stay a mystery forever? __________________ Wanted - Wonderfully witty quote that consists of pure brilliance

03-22-2004, 07:27 PM	#11
Liriodendron Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Indiana Posts: 527	Actually, I think this version is VERY cool! I wish I had a lot of free time to explore. Everybody's avatars look very beautiful. __________________ http://www.lizmargason.com

03-25-2004, 10:35 AM	#12
Ainaserkewen Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A cosmic waiting room Posts: 651	Post #'s Sorry if this was asked already... Did a lot of old posts and threads get deleted? I remember my post count over a four hundred but now I'm at 399. It doesn't matter, I'm just curious. __________________ Solus... I'm eating chicken again. I ate chicken yesterday and the day before... will I be eating chicken again tomorrow? Why am I always eating chicken?

03-25-2004, 12:47 PM	#14
*Sharkû* Hungry Ghoul Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 1,719	The 'post shrinkage' already happened in the move from UBB to VBulletin, as you can see in the older VB Questions thread, and is due to the fact that VBulleting excluded some old posts (in closed threads and for IIRC) from counting towards your total. I lost exactly 400 posts, for example. I can't see how new posts get lost; certainly not if they did actually appear and it wasn't a software/connection error. Please verify that and report back. The max number of images in a thread makes sense IMO. Perhaps smilies could be excluded from it, but why should they.

03-25-2004, 01:46 PM	#15
symestreem Face in the Water Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 728	Reasons to exclude smileys Submitting something to a forum is like sending an email; the people who read your message can't read your body language, and they can't hear your tone of voice. Most of us are not skilled enough as writers to always express sarcasm/kidding/whatever else in our posts; smileys help us do that and save a whole lot of confusion, and possibly offense. If you have a large post, or are trying to express a "compound emotion" (like: ) it stands to reason that you will have more than three smileys in a post.

03-25-2004, 01:49 PM	#16
*The Barrow-Wight* Night In Wight Satin Join Date: May 2000 Posts: 4,043	The smiley limit gives everyone the excuse to improve the emotional writing __________________ The Barrow-Wight

04-14-2004, 11:54 AM	#17
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	Using the Buddy List Someone walk me through this version: On the last version I had the opportunity to look at my Buddy List and send a PM from it. Now when I look at the buddy list it simply lists the names as black text on a white background with no way of clicking on one or a number of them to send a PM. Am I missing a way to send PM's directly from the Buddy List? ~~ Pio _______________________________________ EDIT: Thank you kindly, BW! (answer below) ~~ Pio, blind as a bat at times . . . __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside. Last edited by piosenniel; 04-14-2004 at 12:42 PM.

04-14-2004, 12:03 PM	#18
*The Barrow-Wight* Night In Wight Satin Join Date: May 2000 Posts: 4,043	Sending PM's to Buddies. Go to QUICK LINKS and choose OPEN BUDDY List. Click the box by the buddy you want to PM. Click the PM USERS button. __________________ The Barrow-Wight

04-16-2004, 03:57 PM	#19
Sleeping Beauty Wight Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Somewhere between the back of the chair and the monitor Posts: 115	Just a quick question: You know little preview box that comes up when you hover or just click once on threads, why does it only show up on posts I haven't read yet and not on posts that I have? Is it just a board thing for new posts or is my computer just being random? __________________ "If I knew all of the answers, I'd run for God." ~ Klinger: MAS*H

04-28-2004, 09:17 PM	#20
Gorwingel Beholder of the Mists Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Somewhere in the Northwest... for now Posts: 1,419	Ok, I just have a quick, little question... Now I know that the little green box (the one that says "Gorwingel has started on the path to adventure... blah..blah" when you put your cursor over it) has been asked about before, and that we kind of know what it is for. But I was just wondering... today I was just doing my regular reading of various threads, and I noticed that Saucepan Man had two little green boxes instead of just one! gasp Now is the extra box because of Saucepan Man having many messages in his reputations, or is it because of something else? An answer would be greatly appreciated __________________ Wanted - Wonderfully witty quote that consists of pure brilliance

05-11-2004, 08:05 PM	#21
mark12_30 Stormdancer of Doom Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Elvish singing is not a thing to miss, in June under the stars Posts: 4,349	It's because he's "As faithful as Samwise." So's Esty, now, I think. Barrow Wight-- the way that PM'ing is set up right now, the system automatically saves a copy of each PM I send, unless I remember to tell it not to. It also defaults to "Ask For Read Receipt", or whatever it's called. I've looked for a way to default these to OFF and I haven't found one yet. Any suggestions? __________________ ...down to the water to see the elves dance and sing upon the midsummer's eve.

04-25-2011, 09:56 PM	#22
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,382	Anyone knows what's going on? I don't know if this is the right place to ask, but I've noticed that a few posts disappeared off some different threads over the course of less than 6 hours. It's about 3 or 4 (I'm not really sure) posts - a bit too much in such a short time period to be a coincidence. It didn't seem like there was anything wrong with the posts either... Also, my smileys are somehow messed up. They work, but they are in a different order than they used to be. It's nothing important, but it sort of gets on my nerves to have them rearranged after you get used to them being in their places... Is it my computer playing tricks on me again, or does some one else have the same thing? EDIT: I went through more threads today, and realised that way more posts are missing. __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera Last edited by Galadriel55; 04-26-2011 at 09:38 AM.

04-26-2011, 09:42 AM	#23
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,455	I know that deliberately deleted posts can be resurrected since Pio the blessed and merciful bailed me out not so long ago when I accidentally deleted one by accident so is there any chance that they are merely mislaid rather than permanently lost? __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

04-26-2011, 09:58 AM	#24
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	I did read your missing post last evening in the Inn, Mith. But now when I look at that thread, it is well and truly gone - nothing left for me to retrieve. I noticed we can't rate threads in the game forum, either. Anyway, I PM'd Mister Underhill to see if maybe he can sort out the glitch. ~*~ Pio __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.

04-27-2011, 02:15 AM	#25
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,455	Thanks for trying Pio. I am quite relieved it did actually exist and it could have been a lot worse - as on the scale of the last time. Guess I had better just get on with the rewrite... __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

04-27-2011, 11:00 AM	#26
*Mister Underhill* Dread Horseman Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Behind you! Posts: 2,743	Got your PM, pio. I don't have a clue what might've happened. Sounds like one of those weird things we've had in the past where the server somehow got out of sync. Assuming only posts made during that window have gone missing and that this isn't an ongoing problem, my guess is that something happened with our hosting service. Either way, BW is really the go-to guy for server problems and/or any possible corruption of the actual forum software. The admins are all rather treeish these days, as you know, but I'm pretty sure BW still checks in on a fairly regular basis. I'll PM him to make sure he has a heads-up too. In the meantime, continue to report any irregularities here. If there's more stuff, I'll probably break this thread off into a new one. As always when it comes to technical difficulties, the more specific you can be, the better.