What did you think of the battle scenes? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Kiah · 06-12-2003, 07:04 PM

On The Two Towers what did you think of the battle scenes? Where they well done? Were there too many? Where they scary? Please tell me your thoughts on this matter. I personally thought they overdid it but they did look neat.

Trippo The Hippo · 06-12-2003, 08:59 PM

Well I think that the fight scenes were really cool. Perhaps they did over do them and focus on them to much. But there really is no new story in TTT. Except for Saruman & Rohan. PJ could not add in story to it without getting murdered by a few of the downers here. So he did all he could. Basically if you think of it all the characters do is move closer to Mordor. Which does not equal 3 hours of marterial in movie form. So all PJ had on his plate was a little bit of moving forward, character development, and fight scenes. He did all of these very well.

Meela · 06-13-2003, 05:27 AM

The battle scenes were excellent. I even enjoyed the tacky Legolas-on-shield moment.Some of the slow motion moments were spectacular. When Aragorn and the elves charge at the Uruk-Hai, for example.And don't get me started on the "Forth Eorlingas"... it made me cry so much. I have tears in my eyes right now, just thinking about it. The music really enhanced it.[ June 13, 2003: Message edited by: Meela ]

Aragost · 06-13-2003, 08:58 AM

I thought that they did a really good job with the battle scenes. Exept the part where Legolas jumped onto Gimli's horse. I thought that look too unrealistic. To me it looked like he was getting off the horse when they filmed it but they reversed it for the film.

06-13-2003, 12:31 PM

I really enjoyed them. I thought that they made the movie a little more interesting.

Angadraug · 06-13-2003, 01:26 PM

I thought they were great. I will agree with Aragost on the Legolas jump. When I first saw the movie I didn't get a good look at it and I thought "Wow that was cool." Then the second time I watched it I was paying attention and I went "WHAAA!" Other than that they did a wonderful job.

mollecon · 06-13-2003, 01:46 PM

I can perfectly well understand if some people think there's too much fighting going on. BUT, there is a good deal of it in the books, too. And as has been said in this forum about a gazillion times, movies & books works differently - & battle scenes means action, so...By & large, I think it's done superbly - of course there's a couple of places where one lifts the eyebrows a bit - like Legolas jump on the horse - but that's a minor thing in the overall picture, to me anyway.

Elrowen Greenleaf · 06-14-2003, 02:05 PM

I enjoyed the battle scenes... I know a couple people who didn't like the fact that the orcs are so gross (?read the books????), but I was really disappointed that the Elves showed up and they killed Haldir. I don't remember Legolas jumping onto Gimli's horse. (Kinda' hard to go see the movie a bunch of times when nobody wants to see it more than twice...) But I loved the battle of Helm's Deep.

Finwe · 06-14-2003, 02:21 PM

I also cried like a baby during the "Forth Eorlingas" part. I was so moved by Eomer yelling "To the King!" that I started crying like a baby on my friend's shoulder, then I started off almost all of the people in the theater crying.

Morai · 06-24-2003, 11:21 AM

I liked the battle of Helms Deep best. Though, I got kinda bored, but only because I wanted to see more of Gollum. The whole Legolas and Gimli rivalry made me burst out laughing.

dancing spawn of ungoliant · 06-24-2003, 11:59 AM

fighting is art! in lotr i love that the fighting scenes aren't just blood and ugly pictures...the scenes are stylish with great coreography. i really enjoyed them (at least most of the time).

Everdawn · 06-25-2003, 03:56 AM

Man it was great! i expected it to be a bit more bloody though.. i guess we will have to wait for the Plennor Fields for that one.

Shy Hobbit · 06-25-2003, 08:45 AM

I must say that they did a wonderful job on The Two Towers. I'm not a big fan of fight/battle scenes. Normally I hate them. But these were wonderful! They had alot of feeling and emotion. I didn't mind the Elves at Helm's Deep. That's one change I actually really liked. I just didn't like them killing off so many of them, and they seemed to fall so easily. What's up with that? Oh well. I'm still waiting to be blown away by RotK. Not sure if I can handle it Too much awesomeness, so to speak

Lily · 06-27-2003, 12:40 PM

I thought all the battle scenes from FOTR to TTT were just so awsome and cool! They did them quite well I think and they just blew my mind! Especially Helm's Deep that was the best one! It was...their no words for it except it was the best battle scene I've ever seen!

peonydeepdelver · 06-27-2003, 01:01 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> And don't get me started on the "Forth Eorlingas"... it made me cry so much. I have tears in my eyes right now, just thinking about it. The music really enhanced it. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Same here Meela! The only problem I had was Helm's Deep was too overdone in the second one. I mean, it's not THAT big of a fight, Pelennor Fields is waayyyyy more important, in my opinion. Helm's Deep took up too much time, time that could have been spent on other characters *coughmerryandpippincough* . But I love Amon Hen and how PJ did the battle between Lurtz and Aragorn. I liked how he added Lurtz as a character, even if he shouldn't be there, because then it makes it seem like it wasn't just some random Orc that came up and shot Boromir full of arrows.

dancing spawn of ungoliant · 06-27-2003, 01:17 PM

yep, <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> "Forth Eorlingas"...I have tears in my eyes right now, just thinking... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> the best scene in the movie! <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Helm's Deep took up too much time <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>well, considering that they had 10 000 orcs to slaughter...they did it quite fast

The Only Real Estel · 06-28-2003, 11:36 AM

Helm's Deep was a bit drawn out, but it was awesome none the less! It was excellently done. The only misgivings I had about the fight seen is the constantly moving around camera. I know they did this to avoid an R rating, but it's almost enough to make you dizzy! I'd just like to see more of it more clearly. I have a friend who says that the moving camera & the constant darkness combine to make it a slightly less good fight scene/movie. Oh well.

Sirithheruwen · 07-21-2003, 10:54 AM

I loved all of the action in TTT! It had much more than FOTR. Helm's Deep was the visual effects phemomenon of the centuary!!! It was a mazing!!! If this is Helm's Deep, imagine what the Pelennor Fields will look like?!?!?! I can't wait!!! It's not that I'm a gory person, but the battles always pump me with adreniline and make me feel as if I was there, if the scene and effects are good. 149 DAYS TILL ROTK TO DATE!!! YAY!!! [ July 21, 2003: Message edited by: Sirithheruwen ]

The Only Real Estel · 07-21-2003, 10:57 AM

I'm not a TOTAL action junkee (not quite), though. I like Fotr better because it was done better, not TTT because it had more battle scenes. But anyhoo, TTT's battles were very cool.

Nehani · 07-21-2003, 11:16 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Exept the part where Legolas jumped onto Gimli's horse. I thought that look too unrealistic. To me it looked like he was getting off the horse when they filmed it but they reversed it for the film.I agree on that, but I still wonder how they pulled it off. I loved Helm's Deep, and can't wait to see the Pelennor Fields. I loved all the battles/fighting so far, and I have hopes for the best from ROTK.

06-12-2003, 07:04 PM	#1
Kiah Animated Skeleton Join Date: May 2003 Location: When I figure it out I will tell you Posts: 26	What did you think of the battle scenes? On The Two Towers what did you think of the battle scenes? Where they well done? Were there too many? Where they scary? Please tell me your thoughts on this matter. I personally thought they overdid it but they did look neat. __________________ In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.

06-12-2003, 08:59 PM	#2
Trippo The Hippo Wight Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: somewhere with hippos that say jolly o and wear spectacles Posts: 195	Well I think that the fight scenes were really cool. Perhaps they did over do them and focus on them to much. But there really is no new story in TTT. Except for Saruman & Rohan. PJ could not add in story to it without getting murdered by a few of the downers here. So he did all he could. Basically if you think of it all the characters do is move closer to Mordor. Which does not equal 3 hours of marterial in movie form. So all PJ had on his plate was a little bit of moving forward, character development, and fight scenes. He did all of these very well. __________________ Shouldn't he be the disco steward?

06-13-2003, 05:27 AM	#3
Meela Denethor's True Love Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mirkwood. With Thranduil... swoon Posts: 2,049	The battle scenes were excellent. I even enjoyed the tacky Legolas-on-shield moment.<P>Some of the slow motion moments were spectacular. When Aragorn and the elves charge at the Uruk-Hai, for example.<P>And don't get me started on the "Forth Eorlingas"... it made me cry so much. I have tears in my eyes right now, just thinking about it. The music really enhanced it.<p>[ June 13, 2003: Message edited by: Meela ] __________________ 'The Hobbit' 1st impressions: 1. Thorin is hot... Oh god, I fancy a dwarf. 2. Thranduil is hotter. 3. Is that... Figwit! 4. Does Elijah Wood never age? 2nd: It's all about Fili & Kili, really. 3rd: BARD! OMG, Bard.

06-13-2003, 08:58 AM	#4
Aragost Wight Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Arthedain Posts: 137	I thought that they did a really good job with the battle scenes. Exept the part where Legolas jumped onto Gimli's horse. I thought that look too unrealistic. To me it looked like he was getting off the horse when they filmed it but they reversed it for the film. __________________ Where there's a whip there's a will

06-13-2003, 01:46 PM	#7
mollecon Wight Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Denmark Posts: 188	I can perfectly well understand if some people think there's too much fighting going on. BUT, there <I>is</I> a good deal of it in the books, too. And as has been said in this forum about a gazillion times, movies & books works differently - & battle scenes means action, so...<P>By & large, I think it's done superbly - of course there's a couple of places where one lifts the eyebrows a bit - like Legolas jump on the horse - but that's a minor thing in the overall picture, to me anyway.

06-13-2003, 12:31 PM	#5
Sindalomewen36 Guest Posts: n/a	I really enjoyed them. I thought that they made the movie a little more interesting.

06-13-2003, 01:26 PM	#6
Angadraug Animated Skeleton Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Mirkwood Posts: 44	I thought they were great. I will agree with Aragost on the Legolas jump. When I first saw the movie I didn't get a good look at it and I thought "Wow that was cool." Then the second time I watched it I was paying attention and I went "WHAAA!" Other than that they did a wonderful job.

06-14-2003, 02:05 PM	#8
Elrowen Greenleaf Animated Skeleton Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Greenwood the Great Posts: 33	I enjoyed the battle scenes... I know a couple people who didn't like the fact that the orcs are so gross (?read the books????), but I was really disappointed that the Elves showed up and they killed Haldir. <P>I don't remember Legolas jumping onto Gimli's horse. (Kinda' hard to go see the movie a bunch of times when nobody wants to see it more than twice...) But I loved the battle of Helm's Deep. __________________ "Only the journey is written, not the destination." -Ardeth Bay The bow of Legolas was singing.

06-14-2003, 02:21 PM	#9
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	I also cried like a baby during the "Forth Eorlingas" part. I was so moved by Eomer yelling "To the King!" that I started crying like a baby on my friend's shoulder, then I started off almost all of the people in the theater crying. __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.

06-24-2003, 11:21 AM	#10
Morai Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2002 Location: Where young people go to retire Posts: 709	I liked the battle of Helms Deep best. Though, I got kinda bored, but only because I wanted to see more of Gollum. The whole Legolas and Gimli rivalry made me burst out laughing. __________________ "So why the safe distance, this curious look? Why tear out single pages when you can throw away the book? Why pluck one string when you can strum the guitar? MeWithoutYou http://fortyfifthparadox.com

06-24-2003, 11:59 AM	#11
dancing spawn of ungoliant Mischievous Candle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: So near to Russia, so far from Japan, quite a long way from Cairo, lots of miles from Vietnam. Posts: 1,234	fighting is art! in lotr i love that the fighting scenes aren't just blood and ugly pictures...the scenes are stylish with great coreography. i really enjoyed them (at least most of the time). __________________ Fenris Wolf

06-25-2003, 03:56 AM	#12
Everdawn Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: On the sand dunes outside of Ilium, watching it burn. Posts: 1,291	Man it was great! i expected it to be a bit more bloody though.. i guess we will have to wait for the Plennor Fields for that one. __________________ "Athena, stepping up behind him, visible to no one but Achillies, gripped his red-gold hair. Startled he made a half turn, and he knew her upon the instant for Athena." ~The Iliad~ ~My lord, Éomer~

06-25-2003, 08:45 AM	#13
Shy Hobbit Wight Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: In my own little world Posts: 201	I must say that they did a wonderful job on The Two Towers. I'm not a big fan of fight/battle scenes. Normally I hate them. But these were wonderful! They had alot of feeling and emotion. I didn't mind the Elves at Helm's Deep. That's one change I actually really liked. I just didn't like them killing off so many of them, and they seemed to fall so easily. What's up with that? <P>Oh well. I'm still waiting to be blown away by RotK. Not sure if I can handle it Too much awesomeness, so to speak __________________ Make Middle-Earth a friendlier place, hug a balrog today! ~The Fellowship of the King~

06-27-2003, 12:40 PM	#14
Lily Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Wouldn't you like to know!! Posts: 72	I thought all the battle scenes from FOTR to TTT were just so awsome and cool! They did them quite well I think and they just blew my mind! Especially Helm's Deep that was the best one! It was...their no words for it except it was the best battle scene I've ever seen!

06-27-2003, 01:01 PM	#15
peonydeepdelver Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Alas, I hail from Massachusetts Posts: 256	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> And don't get me started on the "Forth Eorlingas"... it made me cry so much. I have tears in my eyes right now, just thinking about it. The music really enhanced it. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Same here Meela! The only problem I had was Helm's Deep was too overdone in the second one. I mean, it's not THAT big of a fight, Pelennor Fields is waayyyyy more important, in my opinion. Helm's Deep took up too much time, time that could have been spent on other characters coughmerryandpippincough . But I love Amon Hen and how PJ did the battle between Lurtz and Aragorn. I liked how he added Lurtz as a character, even if he shouldn't be there, because then it makes it seem like it wasn't just some random Orc that came up and shot Boromir full of arrows. __________________ "Nazgul, Nazgul! You speak of what is deep beyond the reach of your muddy dreams, Ugluk! Nazgul! Ah! All that they make out! One day you'll wish that you had not said that. Ape! You ought to know that they're the apple of the Great Eye." ~Grishnakh

06-27-2003, 01:17 PM	#16
dancing spawn of ungoliant Mischievous Candle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: So near to Russia, so far from Japan, quite a long way from Cairo, lots of miles from Vietnam. Posts: 1,234	yep, <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> "Forth Eorlingas"...I have tears in my eyes right now, just thinking... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>the best scene in the movie!<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Helm's Deep took up too much time <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>well, considering that they had 10 000 orcs to slaughter...they did it quite fast __________________ Fenris Wolf

06-28-2003, 11:36 AM	#17
The Only Real Estel Raffish Rapscallion Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Far from the 'Downs, it seems :-( Posts: 2,835	Helm's Deep was a bit drawn out, but it was awesome none the less! It was excellently done. The only misgivings I had about the fight seen is the constantly moving around camera. I know they did this to avoid an R rating, but it's almost enough to make you dizzy! I'd just like to see more of it more clearly. I have a friend who says that the moving camera & the constant darkness combine to make it a slightly less good fight scene/movie. Oh well.

07-21-2003, 10:54 AM	#18
Sirithheruwen Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: May 2003 Location: Wind's Road Posts: 467	I loved all of the action in TTT! It had much more than FOTR. Helm's Deep was the visual effects phemomenon of the centuary!!! It was a mazing!!! If this is Helm's Deep, imagine what the Pelennor Fields will look like?!?!?! I can't wait!!! <BR>It's not that I'm a gory person, but the battles always pump me with adreniline and make me feel as if I was there, if the scene and effects are good. <BR> 149 DAYS TILL ROTK TO DATE!!! YAY!!! <p>[ July 21, 2003: Message edited by: Sirithheruwen ] __________________ "My name is Mallard, but you can call me Duck." ~Random Saying, compliments of Sirith and her best friend, concerning a book.

07-21-2003, 10:57 AM	#19
The Only Real Estel Raffish Rapscallion Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Far from the 'Downs, it seems :-( Posts: 2,835	I'm not a TOTAL action junkee (not quite), though. I like Fotr better because it was done better, not TTT because it had more battle scenes. But anyhoo, TTT's battles were very cool.

07-21-2003, 11:16 AM	#20
Nehani Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Mirkwood (or something like it) Posts: 80	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Exept the part where Legolas jumped onto Gimli's horse. I thought that look too unrealistic. To me it looked like he was getting off the horse when they filmed it but they reversed it for the film.<P>I agree on that, but I still wonder how they pulled it off. I loved Helm's Deep, and can't wait to see the Pelennor Fields. I loved all the battles/fighting so far, and I have hopes for the best from ROTK. __________________ "Been A Long Road To Follow, Been There And Gone Tomorrow Without Saying Goodbye To Yesterday..." "The Way Is Closed. It Was Made By Those Who are Dead. The Way is Closed."

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