strange RotK cast list? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Elanor · 01-12-2003, 09:42 AM

I was just looking up RotK on the Internet Movie Database, and the cast list gave me one thing to wonder about: there was no sign of Hugo Weaving as Elrond! I know that he wasn't to everyone's taste here (I was one of the ones who really liked him) but surely they can't have the end of the story without him? Does anyone know for sure that Elrond will feature in the final film?

Elven-Maiden · 01-12-2003, 10:14 AM

hmmm, that is weird! I really missed Bilbo in TTT. I know he had no importance in that part of the movie, but still! *sniff*Maybe Elrond left on the boat with the rest of his people... I really don't know I looked on imdb.com too, but he's not there.P.S. For the record, I always liked him too.

Maikadilwen · 01-12-2003, 11:05 AM

Sounds strange. I've seen pictures on the web of Elrond speaking to Celeborn, so I would expect him to be in ROTK. Maybe he's not in it very much and is not considered important enough to be mentioned...? Surely they can't mention ALL the actors.

Eruwen · 01-12-2003, 01:09 PM

Elanor, if you go to <A HREF="http://www.theonering.net/movie/cast.html" TARGET=_blank>this site</A> you will find the complete cast for all three movies as so far given. Hugo Weaving is, in fact, in the cast list for ROTK. Besides, I doubt they would have left him out with an ending like that in TTT.

Gorwingel · 01-12-2003, 01:59 PM

Yeah, I would think that he would probably be in it, with the way they have been pushing the father/daughter relationship in the films. He still has some long speeches to give to Arwen about not marring Aragorn.

Elanor · 01-12-2003, 03:19 PM

Thanks, I feel ressured now! I didn't really believe they could leave him out, but then, you never know.

Orual · 01-12-2003, 08:51 PM

Well, from my experience IMDB isn't always totally reliable--a lot of their pre-official release stuff is based on rumours, I believe. Take what you read there with a grain of salt.~*~Orual~*~

-Imrahil- · 01-13-2003, 12:12 AM

WHOA if I read that correctly Sean Astin's daughter will be playing Elanor? How cool is that?

Garen LiLorian · 01-13-2003, 02:10 AM

To bring up another discrepancy in that cast list;No Beregond? I am upset. I was looking forward to him.

doug*platypus · 01-13-2003, 02:48 AM

Cooool! Thanks for the link, Eruwen, although I'm sure if I ever left the Downs I could have found it easily enough! Great to see Elanor, Gorbag (YES YES YES!!!), Mouth of Sauron and Ghân-buri-Ghân. Of course, that doesn't mean that these characters' roles won't be butchered. Poor, poor Faramir. <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> He will play Denethor in two films in The Lord of the Rings Trilogy. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Huh?? Did this site see something in TTT that I missed? Or can its reliability be called into question? I notice that there is no Ted Sandyman or Lotho Sackville-Baggins. Poor, poor Scouring of the Shire. Of course, maybe they're trying to keep it a surprise? Like another big surprise name that is left off the ROTK list...

Maikadilwen · 01-13-2003, 04:33 AM

Well, since there won't BE any Scouring of The Shire.... Yes Imrahil, you're right. Elanor is played by Sean Astin's own daughter. I've seen a picture of them, and she's truly adorable.[ January 13, 2003: Message edited by: Maikadilwen ]

Eruwen · 01-13-2003, 02:13 PM

Actually, in the extended version of FOTR, Ted and is in it. At the scene in the Green Dragon, I believe that is supposed to be Ted Sandyman sitting there talking at the table with Sam, the Gaffer, and that other strange nameless Hobbit. Sorry if I'm wrong about this, but I do believe he was supposed to be the one who said to Frodo, "Keep your nose out of trouble and no trouble will come to you." As for Lotho, yeah, sadly I doubt he will be in ROTK. If he is, it will probably be for like a brief shot of him alongside Lobelia or something. Oh well. Oh, and I found that picture of Sam and Elanor. Look at it...isn't it so cute? [ January 13, 2003: Message edited by: Eruwen ]

HCIsland · 01-13-2003, 02:24 PM

No Beregond. I loved that scene with him and Pippin having lunch on the battlements, looking over Minas Tirith and the fields. It would have been a great, quiet, visual. So calm-before-the-storm.I also love the scene where Beregond is holding keeping the tower guard from fulfilling Denethor's commands.Oh well.H.C.

Rose Cotton · 01-14-2003, 04:27 PM

No Beregond!?That is indeed strange. How are Pippin suposed to get Gandalf in time to save Faramir without Beregond?Or perhaps Gandalf comes on his own. Oh, that would degrate Pippin's character.Alright don't listen to me. It will all probably be alright! We must have happy thoughts!

01-12-2003, 09:42 AM	#1
Elanor Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: my own corner of the Shire Posts: 316	strange RotK cast list? I was just looking up RotK on the Internet Movie Database, and the cast list gave me one thing to wonder about: there was no sign of Hugo Weaving as Elrond! I know that he wasn't to everyone's taste here (I was one of the ones who really liked him) but surely they can't have the end of the story without him? Does anyone know for sure that Elrond will feature in the final film? __________________ "When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading." Henny Youngman (1906 - )

01-12-2003, 10:14 AM	#2
Elven-Maiden Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 297	hmmm, that is weird! I really missed Bilbo in TTT. I know he had no importance in that part of the movie, but still! sniff<P>Maybe Elrond left on the boat with the rest of his people... I really don't know I looked on imdb.com too, but he's not there.<P>P.S. For the record, I always liked him too. __________________ Tout ce qui est or ne brille pas, Tous ceux qui errent ne sont pas perdus. Mobilis in Mobile

01-12-2003, 11:05 AM	#3
Maikadilwen Summoner of Lost Souls Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: At home, with my Strongbow Posts: 521	Sounds strange.<BR>I've seen pictures on the web of Elrond speaking to Celeborn, so I would expect him to be in ROTK. <BR>Maybe he's not in it very much and is not considered important enough to be mentioned...? Surely they can't mention ALL the actors. __________________ -"Death borders upon our birth, and our cradle stands in the grave. Our birth is nothing but our death begun."

01-12-2003, 01:09 PM	#4
Eruwen Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 892	Elanor, if you go to <A HREF="http://www.theonering.net/movie/cast.html" TARGET=_blank>this site</A> you will find the complete cast for all three movies as so far given. Hugo Weaving is, in fact, in the cast list for ROTK. <P>Besides, I doubt they would have left him out with an ending like that in TTT.

01-12-2003, 01:59 PM	#5
Gorwingel Beholder of the Mists Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Somewhere in the Northwest... for now Posts: 1,419	Yeah, I would think that he would probably be in it, with the way they have been pushing the father/daughter relationship in the films. He still has some long speeches to give to Arwen about not marring Aragorn. __________________ Wanted - Wonderfully witty quote that consists of pure brilliance

01-12-2003, 03:19 PM	#6
Elanor Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: my own corner of the Shire Posts: 316	Thanks, I feel ressured now! I didn't really believe they could leave him out, but then, you never know. __________________ "When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading." Henny Youngman (1906 - )

01-12-2003, 08:51 PM	#7
Orual Speaker of the Dead Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Superbia Posts: 868	Well, from my experience IMDB isn't always totally reliable--a lot of their pre-official release stuff is based on rumours, I believe. Take what you read there with a grain of salt.<P>~~Orual~~ __________________ "Oh, my god! I care so little, I almost passed out!" --Dr. Cox, "Scrubs"

01-13-2003, 12:12 AM	#8
-Imrahil- Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Dol Amroth, upon the Bay of Belfalas Posts: 259	WHOA if I read that correctly Sean Astin's daughter will be playing Elanor? How cool is that? __________________ My body is broken. I go to my fathers. And even in their mighty company I shall not now be ashamed. I felled the black serpent. A grim morn, and a glad day, and a golden sunset!

01-13-2003, 02:10 AM	#9
Garen LiLorian Wight Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The frigid white wilderness of the Midwest Posts: 235	To bring up another discrepancy in that cast list;<P>No Beregond? I am upset. I was looking forward to him. __________________ This is my quest, to follow that star; no matter how hopeless, no matter how far. To fight for the right, without question or pause. To be willing to march into Hell for a Heavenly cause! -Man of La Mancha

01-13-2003, 02:48 AM	#10
doug*platypus Delver in the Deep Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Aotearoa Posts: 960	Cooool! Thanks for the link, Eruwen, although I'm sure if I ever left the Downs I could have found it easily enough! Great to see Elanor, Gorbag (YES YES YES!!!), Mouth of Sauron and Ghân-buri-Ghân. Of course, that doesn't mean that these characters' roles won't be butchered. Poor, poor Faramir.<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> He will play Denethor in two films in The Lord of the Rings Trilogy. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Huh?? Did this site see something in TTT that I missed? Or can its reliability be called into question? I notice that there is no Ted Sandyman or Lotho Sackville-Baggins. Poor, poor Scouring of the Shire. Of course, maybe they're trying to keep it a surprise? Like another big surprise name that is left off the ROTK list... __________________ But Gwindor answered: 'The doom lies in yourself, not in your name'.

01-13-2003, 04:33 AM	#11
Maikadilwen Summoner of Lost Souls Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: At home, with my Strongbow Posts: 521	Well, since there won't BE any Scouring of The Shire.... <P>Yes <B>Imrahil</B>, you're right. Elanor is played by Sean Astin's own daughter. I've seen a picture of them, and she's truly adorable.<p>[ January 13, 2003: Message edited by: Maikadilwen ] __________________ -"Death borders upon our birth, and our cradle stands in the grave. Our birth is nothing but our death begun."

01-13-2003, 02:13 PM	#12
Eruwen Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 892	Actually, in the extended version of FOTR, Ted and is in it. At the scene in the Green Dragon, I believe that is supposed to be Ted Sandyman sitting there talking at the table with Sam, the Gaffer, and that other strange nameless Hobbit. Sorry if I'm wrong about this, but I do believe he was supposed to be the one who said to Frodo, "Keep your nose out of trouble and no trouble will come to you." <P>As for Lotho, yeah, sadly I doubt he will be in ROTK. If he is, it will probably be for like a brief shot of him alongside Lobelia or something. Oh well. <P>Oh, and I found that picture of Sam and Elanor. Look at it...isn't it so cute?<P> <p>[ January 13, 2003: Message edited by: Eruwen ]

01-13-2003, 02:24 PM	#13
HCIsland Zombie Cannibal Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,000	No Beregond. <P>I loved that scene with him and Pippin having lunch on the battlements, looking over Minas Tirith and the fields. It would have been a great, quiet, visual. So calm-before-the-storm.<P>I also love the scene where Beregond is holding keeping the tower guard from fulfilling Denethor's commands.<P>Oh well.<P>H.C. __________________ "Stir not the bitterness in the cup that I mixed myself. Have I not tasted it now many nights upon my tongue, foreboding that worse yet lay in the dregs." -Denethor

01-14-2003, 04:27 PM	#14
Rose Cotton Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: A place worse then Mordor........School! Posts: 1,075	No Beregond!?<P>That is indeed strange.<BR>How are Pippin suposed to get Gandalf in time to save Faramir without Beregond?<P>Or perhaps Gandalf comes on his own.<BR> Oh, that would degrate Pippin's character.<P>Alright don't listen to me. It will all probably be alright! We must have happy thoughts! __________________ "There's nothing you can do, Harry... nothing... he's gone."-Remus Lupin "The closer we are to danger, the further we are from harm."-Pippin (now how can you argue with that logic?)

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