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Old 05-15-2003, 05:04 PM   #1
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Sting dwarf fathers

i know Durin was one of the seven fathers of the dwarves, but who were the others?(if they are named anywere)
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Old 05-15-2003, 06:17 PM   #2
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Perhaps the first born was known as 'Durin' to the outside world, but that was not his name.

I'm afraid that we don't know much about the Dwarves.
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Old 05-19-2003, 12:03 PM   #3
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i think 2 or 3 others are named somewhere in the HoME. other than that, i cant really help you. but i think quite a few were placed in the east.
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Old 05-19-2003, 03:46 PM   #4
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We know the names of the seven houses but not, I think, of the Fathers.
Here are a couple of links you might like: http://www.annalsofarda.dk/Annals-of.../Introtext.htm
http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/4786/28918
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Old 05-19-2003, 06:36 PM   #5
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Great sites Lalaith! Very informative.
However, as for the topic, I don't think Tolkien ever intended to state the names of the Dwarves ever in any real detail unless he absolutely needed to. The dwarves were always set up to be "the dark peoples" of Arda, you know. With so much information on the other peoples of Middle Earth i think that it was necessary for Tolkien to give us a group of people to have to guess about. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]
Maybe I'm just really ignorant on this subject?
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Old 05-20-2003, 09:35 AM   #6
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scott I would doubt you would be ignorant on the subject. The Dwarves are just peoples that we don't know much about. I have to agree with the statement that they were the "dark people", additionally they always liked to keep to themselves down in the mines and dark places.
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Old 05-21-2003, 12:47 PM   #7
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Only Durin was ever mentioned.'Of Dwarves and Men'(HoME 12) mentions that 'Durin' was a mannish name for 'king' since Dwarves never revealed their Khuzdul names.
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Old 05-21-2003, 01:37 PM   #8
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since Dwarves never revealed their Khuzdul names
Not even on their tombs !!! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Remember Balin's tomb in Moria, and that Balin was his public name but that he had another secret dwarvish name [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]
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