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Old 05-13-2003, 11:30 AM   #1
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I was wondering if Tolkien ever said anything about Moria after the War of the Ring, It seems that Gandalf hinted toward their repopulation when he said that Balin had tried to retake the mines before the time came, and also the gated of Minas Tirith and Helm's Deep were made of Mithril after the war of the ring, so it would seem that hey had somehow gotten ahold of it, perhaps through Morgoth's holds, but most likely (at least for me) they retook the mines after Durin's bane was destroyed by Gandalf. I don't know if any of you other uys have any ideas, but those were mine, the dwarves of erebor retook the mines and rebuilt the crumbling places and delved into the ground once more. Maybe another durin was born too, but I don't know because Tolkien never directly tells us.

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Old 05-13-2003, 11:55 AM   #2
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the answer lies in the appendices of the lotr. it says there somewhere that durins folk retook moria, and durin the seventh was born again, and the dwarves lives in khazaddum until the line of durin failed.
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ok, i cant! its not in rotk, but i remember reading in a jrrt book that moria was retaken.
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Old 05-13-2003, 12:17 PM   #3
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What Return of the King had to say about dwarves post-War of the Ring:

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After the fall of Sauron, Gimli brought south a part of the Dwarf-folk of Erebor, and he became Lord of the Glittering Caves. He and his people did great works in Gondor and Rohan. For Minas Tirith they forged gates of mithril and steel to replace those broken by the Witch-king.
In the line of kings Gimli wrote out for Aragorn, Durin VII is noted to be the last.

It does seem likely that the dwarves attempt to reinhabit Moria (yet again), but it's possible that those that left the Lonely Mountain or the Iron Hills were so captivated by the Glittering Caves and their works for Rohan/Gondor that these new, precious resources made Moria seem like old news.
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Old 05-13-2003, 12:22 PM   #4
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the guy who be short, the text you are looking for is in 'The Peoples of Middle-earth', last HoME book [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Tolkien intention was to include this explanation in Appendix A, but it wasn't finally included in the published version [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

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Old 05-13-2003, 03:41 PM   #5
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From HoMe XII: The Peoples of Middle-earth; ‘Durin’s Folk’:
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And the line of Dáin prospered, and the wealth and renown of the kingship was renewed, until there arose again for the last time an heir of that House that bore the name of Durin, and he returned to Moria; and there was light again in deep places, and the ringing of hammers and the harping of harps, until the world grew old and the Dwarves failed and the days of Durin’s race were ended.
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Old 05-13-2003, 03:45 PM   #6
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That'd probably answer your question. [img]smilies/cool.gif[/img]
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Old 05-13-2003, 07:11 PM   #7
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wow the only real estel thats a scary avatar! anyways, i wish Tolkien had written more on the dwarves, i like them alot
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Old 05-14-2003, 11:44 AM   #8
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balrogman: you think you love dwarves? me (and dain) are the number one dwarf fans! i mean, what other race was strong enough that rings had no power over them? what other race made such beautiful things? elves? bah! dwarves rule!
p.s., the swastika is also a sign of 1) good luck 2) hinduism
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I don't know about you and dain being the biggest dwarf fans, I'm probably hihgh up there too, I mean, who else was smart enough and strong enough to defy the dark Lord in their fastness in Moria. They could not be overcome until something came from within with the balrog, they were undefeatable. Baruk Khazad! Khazad ai menu!
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Old 05-14-2003, 07:10 PM   #10
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what other race was strong enough that rings had no power over them?
The Rings simply amplified one's shortcomings - men became more power-hungry; dwarves became more obsessed with wealth. The Rings did have power over them; that power was simply not as obvious as it was with men.
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