Which continent resembles ME the most - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Ahanarion · 03-05-2002, 02:00 PM

Which do you guys think. In my opinion it's western area looks* like North America. I will give a few comparisans Sierra Nevadas= Ered Luin Rocky mountains= Misty mountains. South America could be Umbar.

*I know it's suposed to be some sort of proto Europe.

Neferchoirwen · 03-05-2002, 08:20 PM

I thought it looked like Spain and Portugal. Unless I'm all screwed in my memory. The shape of the entire Middle Earth looks like the Spain and portugal part of Europe.

Galdor · 03-05-2002, 11:30 PM

They do seem very similar. It seems more like Portugal to me however.

Tigerlily Gamgee · 03-05-2002, 11:59 PM

Gee... it looks kinda like New Zealand to me [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]
OK, I know that was cheesey [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

Neferchoirwen · 03-06-2002, 03:17 AM

How about New Zealand sights IN Portugal?

Sorry I had to think out loud.

Ahanarion · 03-06-2002, 12:05 PM

I just remembered something on one of those Discovery Channel shows they said Europe and North America were once one continent.

Ahanarion · 03-06-2002, 12:11 PM

Oops I forgot to say it look alot like ME.

the_master_of_puppets · 03-06-2002, 01:07 PM

personally i think New Zealand is Middle Earth- exactly as i imagine it

Alkanoonion · 03-06-2002, 08:51 PM

Minus the sheep New Zealand is ME exactly as I imagined it. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Ahanarion · 03-06-2002, 10:05 PM

I meant on a map.

Beren87 · 03-07-2002, 01:26 PM

I think that it looks more like Antartica that anything else.

Enedhil · 03-08-2002, 04:39 PM

ME looks most like new zealand or scotland to me. Slight bit of bais there, i think you'll find [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]
*stares at ben nevis*
I have one foot on you now, heheheh [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]

Daegwenn · 03-08-2002, 06:00 PM

Caradhras reminds me of the Canadian rockies. I have driven up there in the winter time...it's scary.

~~Daegwenn

Narya · 03-09-2002, 08:50 AM

I reminds me of Canada.. although i´ve never been there [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] .. but didn´t Tolkien say that it´s like Europe (and that it is in the same climatic- zone)?
The landscape also remainds me of how I imagine England in older days.

kementari · 03-09-2002, 09:25 AM

Personally I think ME looks kinda like a proto Europe. A lot of the descriptions given in the book matches geographical sites in Europe. [img]null[/img]

Starbreeze · 03-09-2002, 01:55 PM

Uk! Ok, that was just me being patriotic there! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Daegwenn · 03-09-2002, 03:07 PM

Well, the geography of ME is based on Europe...Rivendel's latitude is that of Oxford.

Although, the shire reminds me a lot of New Brunswick and Caradhras reminds me of the Rockies, that is because I have travelled across Canada many times...my opinion would probably change if I did go into the states though.

Starbreeze, there is nothing wrong with being Patriotic! I am very proud to be Canadian!

~~Daegwenn

Daegwenn · 03-09-2002, 03:13 PM

Oh yeah, the climate in Canada and Britian are the same in some places. In Newfoundland, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia and Prince Edward Islands. Cold. Damp. Rainy. and in the summer time, Brief-Don't blink you'll miss it. And 10C is perfect summer weather for shorts and t-shirts.

the guy who be short · 01-30-2003, 04:39 PM

it was actually meant to be europe
in my opinion the sea of nurn and the sea of rhun resemble the caspian sea and the black sea. the rest couls be a sort of dis shaped europe couldnt it?
hope u find that helpful

Meela · 01-31-2003, 05:21 AM

i compared the USA with ME once. The Shire was in the centre, Gondor was in the east and south east, Rohan either in the south or the south west and Arnor in the other one, and the rest somewhere else but i cant remember

Dark Shadow · 01-31-2003, 06:40 AM

Quote:

I just remembered something on one of those Discovery Channel shows they said Europe and North America were once one continent

Wasn't the whole world once one continent?

Meela · 01-31-2003, 01:06 PM

u mean Pangea, right? everything was one huge land

Inderjit Sanghera · 01-31-2003, 01:13 PM

The lands have changed it too much too make it compareble. Latitude wise Rivendell=Oxford and Minas Tirth=Florence.

Gorwingel · 01-31-2003, 02:44 PM

I never thought of Canada, it does kind of look like that. Canada is very grand, and some of the Canadian Rockies look just like the misty mountains and the other places I actually remember seeing some places looking just like Rohan.

Vardadurwen · 01-31-2003, 03:09 PM

Oh totally Canada!!

But actually, I was reminded of Canada very much so in FOTR, especially the shot where Strider is leading the hobbits into the wild. It looked a lot like northern Ontario, with its thick pine trees and dense forestation. There was even some snow on the ground too!

The Rocky mountain chain could work very well as the Misty mountains, especially on the western side getting more into BC, as opposed to Alberta. Also, the plains of Rohan could also be a part of Alberta; not quite as west as the mountains, but getting into hillier areas.

The river Anduin could have been the St.Lawrence river, or another river further north. There is actually a river and waterfall in New York State that probably would have suited the story very well, although the name escapes me at the moment...and it's not in Canada haha.

Canada and Europe have very similar biomes; so even though Tolkien may have been thinking of his own country when he wrote the books, I find that they are easily applicable to Canada aswell.

Of course, New Zealand was a beautiful setting for Lord of the Rings. I think it works perfectly. PJ should definitely get some commendation for his choice of areas used to depict the places in ME.

[ January 31, 2003: Message edited by: Vardadurwen ]

LadyElbereth · 01-31-2003, 03:29 PM

If I were looking on a globe, I'd have to say that the shape of Middle Earth looks alot like Antarctica.

Jesse · 01-31-2003, 04:23 PM

I think Middle Earth looks the most like Scotland. But, that's just me. :sigh:

Tenduriel · 02-01-2003, 02:00 PM

I have to admit I haven't seen the world outside of Europe yet (that is: since the time i left Eresseä [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] )but I always thought that ME resembles Eastern Europe a lot. this part of Europe has a more continental climate - hot summers, chilly winters - and some parts are still more or less wild, like the woods around Prague and the lesser known valleys of the Alps. but you have to know where to find them!!

just for the record: the place where I have settled down is WESTERN Europe, so I'm not...
well you know what I mean.

Namárië!

03-05-2002, 02:00 PM	#1
Ahanarion Haunting Spirit Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tirion upon Tuna Posts: 94	Which continent resembles ME the most Which do you guys think. In my opinion it's western area looks* like North America. I will give a few comparisans Sierra Nevadas= Ered Luin Rocky mountains= Misty mountains. South America could be Umbar. *I know it's suposed to be some sort of proto Europe. __________________ Ohtari i Noldor Hosta!

03-05-2002, 08:20 PM	#2
Neferchoirwen Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: RtR: 483.3 miles, Fords of Bruinen Posts: 512	I thought it looked like Spain and Portugal. Unless I'm all screwed in my memory. The shape of the entire Middle Earth looks like the Spain and portugal part of Europe. __________________ On really romantic nights of self, I go salsa dancing with my confusion. ~Speed Levitch http://crevicesofsilence.blogspot.com/

03-05-2002, 11:30 PM	#3
Galdor Pile O'Bones Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Look up. Yeah, in the big tree. No, the one to the right. Posts: 12	They do seem very similar. It seems more like Portugal to me however. __________________ "Now thats an eyeopener, and that's no mistake." -Samwise Gamgee

03-05-2002, 11:59 PM	#4
Tigerlily Gamgee Hostess of Spirits Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Meduseld Posts: 1,055	Gee... it looks kinda like New Zealand to me [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] OK, I know that was cheesey [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] __________________ ~ ExerciseJunky.com (Hobbits fitness of choice!)~ ~Lady of Rohan: An Eowyn Fansite ~ ~The NEW/OLD Barrow Downs Photo Page~

03-06-2002, 03:17 AM	#5
Neferchoirwen Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: RtR: 483.3 miles, Fords of Bruinen Posts: 512	How about New Zealand sights IN Portugal? Sorry I had to think out loud. __________________ On really romantic nights of self, I go salsa dancing with my confusion. ~Speed Levitch http://crevicesofsilence.blogspot.com/

03-06-2002, 12:05 PM	#6
Ahanarion Haunting Spirit Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tirion upon Tuna Posts: 94	I just remembered something on one of those Discovery Channel shows they said Europe and North America were once one continent. __________________ Ohtari i Noldor Hosta!

03-06-2002, 12:11 PM	#7
Ahanarion Haunting Spirit Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tirion upon Tuna Posts: 94	Oops I forgot to say it look alot like ME. __________________ Ohtari i Noldor Hosta!

03-06-2002, 01:07 PM	#8
the_master_of_puppets Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: scotland Posts: 77	personally i think New Zealand is Middle Earth- exactly as i imagine it

03-06-2002, 08:51 PM	#9
Alkanoonion Spirit in Eriador Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Adelaide Posts: 392	Minus the sheep New Zealand is ME exactly as I imagined it. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ In prosperity our friends know us; in adversity we know our friends.

03-06-2002, 10:05 PM	#10
Ahanarion Haunting Spirit Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tirion upon Tuna Posts: 94	I meant on a map. __________________ Ohtari i Noldor Hosta!

03-07-2002, 01:26 PM	#11
Beren87 Master of the Secret Fire Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Between fire and ice, death and life Posts: 2,241	I think that it looks more like Antartica that anything else.

03-08-2002, 04:39 PM	#12
Enedhil Wight Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Scotland Posts: 102	ME looks most like new zealand or scotland to me. Slight bit of bais there, i think you'll find [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] stares at ben nevis I have one foot on you now, heheheh [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] __________________ Meanwhile these three remain: Faith, Hope and Love. And the greatest of these is Love.

03-08-2002, 06:00 PM	#13
Daegwenn Haunting Spirit Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Lothlórien Posts: 82	Caradhras reminds me of the Canadian rockies. I have driven up there in the winter time...it's scary. ~~Daegwenn __________________ "And still of a winter’s night, they say, when the wind is in the trees, When the moon is a ghostly galleon tossed upon cloudy seas, When the road is a ribbon of moonlight over the purple moor, A highwayman comes riding— Riding—Riding— A highwayman comes riding, up to the old inn-door. Over the cobbles he clatters and clangs in the dark inn-yard. And he taps with his whip on the shutters, but all is locked and barred. He whistles a tune to the window, and who should be waiting there But the landlord’s black-eyed daughter, Bess, the landlord’s daughter, Plaiting a dark red love-knot into her long black hair" Highwayman Alfred Noyes

03-09-2002, 08:50 AM	#14
Narya Wight Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: not here... floating down the Liffey Posts: 124	I reminds me of Canada.. although i´ve never been there [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] .. but didn´t Tolkien say that it´s like Europe (and that it is in the same climatic- zone)? The landscape also remainds me of how I imagine England in older days. __________________ ...for we know the joy of life is the peace* that love can bring* So spoke the wizard in his mountain home.

03-09-2002, 09:25 AM	#15
kementari Haunting Spirit Join Date: May 2003 Location: Amongst the Ferns: New Zealand Posts: 56	Personally I think ME looks kinda like a proto Europe. A lot of the descriptions given in the book matches geographical sites in Europe. [img]null[/img] __________________ ~ Kementari ~ Elen síla lúmenn' omentielvo.

03-09-2002, 01:55 PM	#16
Starbreeze Ghost of a Smile Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Mirkwood - Middle Earth Posts: 389	Uk! Ok, that was just me being patriotic there! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] __________________ Do not tamper with the affairs of wizards, they are not all that subtle - Terry Pratchett To write is to make dreams, to make dreams is to awaken the fantasy of the mind, to awaken the mind is to be a master.

03-09-2002, 03:07 PM	#17
Daegwenn Haunting Spirit Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Lothlórien Posts: 82	Well, the geography of ME is based on Europe...Rivendel's latitude is that of Oxford. Although, the shire reminds me a lot of New Brunswick and Caradhras reminds me of the Rockies, that is because I have travelled across Canada many times...my opinion would probably change if I did go into the states though. Starbreeze, there is nothing wrong with being Patriotic! I am very proud to be Canadian! ~~Daegwenn __________________ "And still of a winter’s night, they say, when the wind is in the trees, When the moon is a ghostly galleon tossed upon cloudy seas, When the road is a ribbon of moonlight over the purple moor, A highwayman comes riding— Riding—Riding— A highwayman comes riding, up to the old inn-door. Over the cobbles he clatters and clangs in the dark inn-yard. And he taps with his whip on the shutters, but all is locked and barred. He whistles a tune to the window, and who should be waiting there But the landlord’s black-eyed daughter, Bess, the landlord’s daughter, Plaiting a dark red love-knot into her long black hair" Highwayman Alfred Noyes

03-09-2002, 03:13 PM	#18
Daegwenn Haunting Spirit Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Lothlórien Posts: 82	Oh yeah, the climate in Canada and Britian are the same in some places. In Newfoundland, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia and Prince Edward Islands. Cold. Damp. Rainy. and in the summer time, Brief-Don't blink you'll miss it. And 10C is perfect summer weather for shorts and t-shirts. __________________ "And still of a winter’s night, they say, when the wind is in the trees, When the moon is a ghostly galleon tossed upon cloudy seas, When the road is a ribbon of moonlight over the purple moor, A highwayman comes riding— Riding—Riding— A highwayman comes riding, up to the old inn-door. Over the cobbles he clatters and clangs in the dark inn-yard. And he taps with his whip on the shutters, but all is locked and barred. He whistles a tune to the window, and who should be waiting there But the landlord’s black-eyed daughter, Bess, the landlord’s daughter, Plaiting a dark red love-knot into her long black hair" Highwayman Alfred Noyes

01-30-2003, 04:39 PM	#19
the guy who be short Shadowed Prince Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Thulcandra Posts: 2,343	it was actually meant to be europe in my opinion the sea of nurn and the sea of rhun resemble the caspian sea and the black sea. the rest couls be a sort of dis shaped europe couldnt it? hope u find that helpful

01-31-2003, 05:21 AM	#20
Meela Denethor's True Love Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mirkwood. With Thranduil... swoon Posts: 2,049	i compared the USA with ME once. The Shire was in the centre, Gondor was in the east and south east, Rohan either in the south or the south west and Arnor in the other one, and the rest somewhere else but i cant remember __________________ 'The Hobbit' 1st impressions: 1. Thorin is hot... Oh god, I fancy a dwarf. 2. Thranduil is hotter. 3. Is that... Figwit! 4. Does Elijah Wood never age? 2nd: It's all about Fili & Kili, really. 3rd: BARD! OMG, Bard.

01-31-2003, 01:06 PM	#22
Meela Denethor's True Love Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mirkwood. With Thranduil... swoon Posts: 2,049	u mean Pangea, right? everything was one huge land __________________ 'The Hobbit' 1st impressions: 1. Thorin is hot... Oh god, I fancy a dwarf. 2. Thranduil is hotter. 3. Is that... Figwit! 4. Does Elijah Wood never age? 2nd: It's all about Fili & Kili, really. 3rd: BARD! OMG, Bard.

01-31-2003, 01:13 PM	#23
Inderjit Sanghera Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Wolverhampton, England Posts: 716	The lands have changed it too much too make it compareble. Latitude wise Rivendell=Oxford and Minas Tirth=Florence. __________________ “If I’m more of an influence on your son as a rapper then you are as a father then you've got to look at yourself as a parent” ~>Ice Cube. "Life is so beautiful"->Don Vito Corleone

01-31-2003, 02:44 PM	#24
Gorwingel Beholder of the Mists Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Somewhere in the Northwest... for now Posts: 1,419	I never thought of Canada, it does kind of look like that. Canada is very grand, and some of the Canadian Rockies look just like the misty mountains and the other places I actually remember seeing some places looking just like Rohan. __________________ Wanted - Wonderfully witty quote that consists of pure brilliance

01-31-2003, 03:09 PM	#25
Vardadurwen Wight Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Saskatchewan, Canada Posts: 102	Oh totally Canada!! But actually, I was reminded of Canada very much so in FOTR, especially the shot where Strider is leading the hobbits into the wild. It looked a lot like northern Ontario, with its thick pine trees and dense forestation. There was even some snow on the ground too! The Rocky mountain chain could work very well as the Misty mountains, especially on the western side getting more into BC, as opposed to Alberta. Also, the plains of Rohan could also be a part of Alberta; not quite as west as the mountains, but getting into hillier areas. The river Anduin could have been the St.Lawrence river, or another river further north. There is actually a river and waterfall in New York State that probably would have suited the story very well, although the name escapes me at the moment...and it's not in Canada haha. Canada and Europe have very similar biomes; so even though Tolkien may have been thinking of his own country when he wrote the books, I find that they are easily applicable to Canada aswell. Of course, New Zealand was a beautiful setting for Lord of the Rings. I think it works perfectly. PJ should definitely get some commendation for his choice of areas used to depict the places in ME. [ January 31, 2003: Message edited by: Vardadurwen ] __________________ 'In this phial,' she said, 'is caught the light of Earendil's star....May it be a light to you in dark places, when all other lights go out...' - Galadriel 'Now there's an eye-opener and no mistake!' - Samwise Gamgee

01-31-2003, 03:29 PM	#26
LadyElbereth Wight Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Taniquetil Posts: 183	If I were looking on a globe, I'd have to say that the shape of Middle Earth looks alot like Antarctica. __________________ If I could be anything, I'd be your tear, so I could be born in your eye, live down your cheek, and die on your lips.

01-31-2003, 04:23 PM	#27
Jesse Animated Skeleton Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: My home is in the Twin Cities, but my soul is at Loch Ness in Scotland Posts: 42	I think Middle Earth looks the most like Scotland. But, that's just me. :sigh: __________________ --This post was made by Jesse

02-01-2003, 02:00 PM	#28
Tenduriel Animated Skeleton Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Erreseä (temporary stay: Belgium) Posts: 37	I have to admit I haven't seen the world outside of Europe yet (that is: since the time i left Eresseä [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] )but I always thought that ME resembles Eastern Europe a lot. this part of Europe has a more continental climate - hot summers, chilly winters - and some parts are still more or less wild, like the woods around Prague and the lesser known valleys of the Alps. but you have to know where to find them!! just for the record: the place where I have settled down is WESTERN Europe, so I'm not... well you know what I mean. Namárië! __________________ navaer! 5r#`C6R (Goodbye) O mór henion i dhû - Ely siriar, êl síla - Ai! Aniron Undómiel - Tiro! Êl eria e môr. - I 'lîr en êl luitha 'uren. - Ai! Aniron

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