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03-12-2003, 07:45 PM

If you had written LOTR what would you have done differently or what new things would you have added!? tell here!

hobbit punk · 03-12-2003, 09:37 PM

To be honest, nothing! I love LOTR exactly the way it is. I think that if any changes were made the story would not flow as nicely and would obviously turn out differently. As for the movies...well that is a different forum [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]

Meela · 03-14-2003, 05:10 AM

i would add more Denethor.

the witch king · 03-14-2003, 07:59 AM

I would have liked more infomation on the 'missing' 2 Wizards, or on the Nazgul but who knows if only he had lived a little longer Tolkien may have written something!

eleanor_niphredil · 03-14-2003, 11:39 AM

I would make it so that the firast few chapters were not so boring! it takes me ages to get into the book, but after that,Im fine!

aragornreborn · 03-15-2003, 12:17 PM

Yes, the beginning was slow. At least, the first time around. After that, you knew that there were things to look forward to, so you plowed ahead.

Ruler of the Frogs · 03-23-2003, 10:10 AM

I would change nothing. The book is so great as it is, I wouldn't mess with it! Although, it would be cool if there were other works published. It seems I just can't get enough of Tolkien's writing! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Lily Bracegirdle · 03-23-2003, 05:55 PM

I would have liked to have heard about the attacks on Mirkwood and Lorien.

-Lily

Durelin · 03-23-2003, 06:21 PM

I would have done more with the 'bad guys'. In many books, it goes into the bad guys' minds and actions as well as the good guys'. Seeing what the bad guys do and think helps you to hate the bad guys more. I believe it needed more evil evil in it, rather than just conquer the world, slaughter people, cut down trees, and barbaric lifestyle evil. Does anyone follow me? By doing those 'scenes' with bad guys, you can really scare people, make people loathe them. You can show that the bad guys really love the pain of others, the blood and the slaughter. But maybe then it would be an R-rated movie, and not as many people would want to read the books. I don't think that many people like books to go into the minds of the truly evil. I don't, really, but I like the fact that you hate it. I like having bad guys that you can totally loathe and be disgusted with, and be afraid of. Well, that's my input...I bet most people would loathe that!

Sillabub · 05-17-2003, 11:59 AM

I would make the books more interesting, for one thing. Here's a list of things I would have done:
-gave Goldberry a bigger part
-made Aragorn die INSTEAD of Boromir (poor guy!)
-given Galadriel a bigger part
-given Pippin most of those parts that Merry has in the stories so he wouldn't be completely forgotten
-punished Gandalf for calling Pippin stupid
-made at least some of the fellowship cowards
and so on and so forth...

Yavanna228 · 05-20-2003, 03:58 PM

I think I would leave the books as they were. Tolkien took such time with them and was so meticulous with the way he put them together that I'm sure any sort of change would make it noticably different, and maybe not for the better. Anyways, I love the books as they are, and wouldn't change a thing. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]
Peace

GlingleglingleglingleFairy · 05-20-2003, 10:24 PM

I would want to have more about the different peoples, like the Easterlings, and have more about the places off the map.

And maybe more poetry.

GaladrieloftheOlden · 05-21-2003, 10:14 AM

I love LotR the way it is, but if I had to change something (though I don't see how that would happen), I agree that more about evil might be nice, or anotherpoem or two. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

~Menelien

Tarien Ithil · 05-27-2003, 12:05 PM

To be honest, LOTR is perfect! (no flaws) as everyone has said before.
Tolkien couldn't have done better! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Noxomanus · 05-27-2003, 12:55 PM

More evil and more Radagast and Blue Wizards and I'd love Sauron to have corrupted some Elves or Huorns into his service.Imagine a forest of Huorns at the Black Gate, surrounding the Captains of the West!Or some Elves being set up as spies in Rivendell...
The early chapters could have been made more entertaining as well.

Aule · 05-27-2003, 04:49 PM

Of course i love the books as they are....but...one thing i would like to know is more about the inner thoughts of Sauron, perhaps even his councils with the Nazgul or that ambassador. Although i suppose one of the things that made Sauron such a menacing figure was that we didn't know too much about what he was thinking or doing.

OR

A larger description of the Battle at the Morannonn when the ring was destroyed (it was the Morannon right?)

GaladrieloftheOlden · 05-27-2003, 05:28 PM

I, respectfully, don't think thethouhts of Sauron would be all that great. Because then we might be understanding the evil, which makes it far less mysterious and haunting.

~Menelien

Finwe · 05-27-2003, 05:36 PM

I wouldn't change the books one bit. I think Tolkien meant for some of the characters to be slightly mysterious and unexplained. Do we really want to know what happened to Alatar and Pallando? I do not deny that I have a lot of fun imagining what they did and the places they saw. I think a lot of people do.
I would definitely leave the villains exactly the way they are. Somehow, giving a lot of information about his/her background ruins a villain (in my opinion). We are often scared by things that we do not understand, and we are meant to be frightened of Sauron and Morgoth. Tolkien wanted it that way.
The Professor was so meticulous about each detail in his work that I think it would be an insult to him to change anything. I think changing the slightest thing would probably end up changing the entire book(s).

Yavanna228 · 05-27-2003, 05:43 PM

Right, Finwe. Changing even the slightest thing in the most obscure way could eventually make the books quite different than what they are today. Would that difference be for the better or for the worse? I can only speculate that it would be for the worse, because the way the dear Professor had meticulously written it is the way he wanted it, and ultimately I think the author knows what is best for his books, whether or not his audience accepts it. The books were good in his eyes, and they were one of the joys of his heart. Again, these are only my opinions, and they are meant in respect to all other opinions.
Peace

greyhavener · 05-28-2003, 03:22 PM

I love this story just the way it is, but if it were mine, I might have provided more background on Aragorn, Gimli, Legolas and Elrond's previous involvement in fighting Mordor and include some events in the societies of elves, men, and dwarves that led up to the Council of Elrond. I'd try to streamline some of the extensive descriptive passages. A little more romance between Aragorn/Arwen and Faramir/Eowyn would be nice. I'd keep everything else pretty much the same.

peonydeepdelver · 05-31-2003, 06:56 AM

I wouldn't change the books at all, but I wish he had written a book all about random hobbitness. I loooove hobbits! It'd be like the Silmarillion for Halflings, and they'd have things like The Great Tookish Tater Famine and stuff. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

03-12-2003, 07:45 PM	#1
moth Guest Posts: n/a	what would you write about? If you had written LOTR what would you have done differently or what new things would you have added!? tell here!

03-12-2003, 09:37 PM	#2
hobbit punk Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 86	To be honest, nothing! I love LOTR exactly the way it is. I think that if any changes were made the story would not flow as nicely and would obviously turn out differently. As for the movies...well that is a different forum [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] __________________ "The alphabet does not go "A B C D What? When? How? but it does go "V W X Why? Z." -Douglas Adams

03-14-2003, 05:10 AM	#3
Meela Denethor's True Love Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mirkwood. With Thranduil... swoon Posts: 2,049	i would add more Denethor. __________________ 'The Hobbit' 1st impressions: 1. Thorin is hot... Oh god, I fancy a dwarf. 2. Thranduil is hotter. 3. Is that... Figwit! 4. Does Elijah Wood never age? 2nd: It's all about Fili & Kili, really. 3rd: BARD! OMG, Bard.

03-14-2003, 07:59 AM	#4
the witch king Wight Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Minas Morgul, Morgul Vale, Mordor Posts: 201	I would have liked more infomation on the 'missing' 2 Wizards, or on the Nazgul but who knows if only he had lived a little longer Tolkien may have written something! __________________ 'Whenever death may surprise us, let it be welcome if our battle cry has reached even one receptive ear and another hand reaches out to take up our arms.'~ Che Guevara.

03-14-2003, 11:39 AM	#5
eleanor_niphredil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: england Posts: 805	I would make it so that the firast few chapters were not so boring! it takes me ages to get into the book, but after that,Im fine! __________________ Here I am, brain the size of a planet, and they ask me to spend my time on this forum. And by the way, for any of you turning into a penguin, stop it. ~* I am Pippin took in the Female Fellowship*~

03-15-2003, 12:17 PM	#6
aragornreborn Wight Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 182	Yes, the beginning was slow. At least, the first time around. After that, you knew that there were things to look forward to, so you plowed ahead. __________________ At the name of Jesus every knee should bow and every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord. - Phil. 2:10-11

03-23-2003, 10:10 AM	#7
Ruler of the Frogs Animated Skeleton Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Minas Tirith Posts: 49	I would change nothing. The book is so great as it is, I wouldn't mess with it! Although, it would be cool if there were other works published. It seems I just can't get enough of Tolkien's writing! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] __________________ What a joy to meet! We only wish to catch a fish, so juicy-sweet!

03-23-2003, 05:55 PM	#8
Lily Bracegirdle Wight Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Bree Posts: 210	I would have liked to have heard about the attacks on Mirkwood and Lorien. -Lily __________________ "But nay: the praise of the praiseworthy is above all rewards." - Faramir

03-23-2003, 06:21 PM	#9
Durelin Estelo dagnir, Melo ring Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,063	I would have done more with the 'bad guys'. In many books, it goes into the bad guys' minds and actions as well as the good guys'. Seeing what the bad guys do and think helps you to hate the bad guys more. I believe it needed more evil evil in it, rather than just conquer the world, slaughter people, cut down trees, and barbaric lifestyle evil. Does anyone follow me? By doing those 'scenes' with bad guys, you can really scare people, make people loathe them. You can show that the bad guys really love the pain of others, the blood and the slaughter. But maybe then it would be an R-rated movie, and not as many people would want to read the books. I don't think that many people like books to go into the minds of the truly evil. I don't, really, but I like the fact that you hate it. I like having bad guys that you can totally loathe and be disgusted with, and be afraid of. Well, that's my input...I bet most people would loathe that!

05-17-2003, 11:59 AM	#10
Sillabub Wight Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: GONDOR!! Posts: 138	I would make the books more interesting, for one thing. Here's a list of things I would have done: -gave Goldberry a bigger part -made Aragorn die INSTEAD of Boromir (poor guy!) -given Galadriel a bigger part -given Pippin most of those parts that Merry has in the stories so he wouldn't be completely forgotten -punished Gandalf for calling Pippin stupid -made at least some of the fellowship cowards and so on and so forth... __________________ They were holding umbrellas. Not just any umbrellas- BLACK umbrellas. Not just ANY black umbrellas- these were...(knuckle-biting time) the BLACK UMBRELLAS OF DEATH!!!!! cue sinister music

05-20-2003, 03:58 PM	#11
Yavanna228 Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: May 2003 Location: on the wings of the morning Posts: 394	I think I would leave the books as they were. Tolkien took such time with them and was so meticulous with the way he put them together that I'm sure any sort of change would make it noticably different, and maybe not for the better. Anyways, I love the books as they are, and wouldn't change a thing. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Peace __________________ 'Dulaman na Binne Bui, Dulaman Gaelach/ Dulaman na farraige, 's e b'fhearr a bhi in Eirinn!'

05-20-2003, 10:24 PM	#12
GlingleglingleglingleFairy Animated Skeleton Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 35	I would want to have more about the different peoples, like the Easterlings, and have more about the places off the map. And maybe more poetry. __________________ "Many that live deserve death, and some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Do not be to eager to deal out death in judgement, even the very wisest cannot forsee all ends." Some people prefer cupcakes. I for one care less for them.

05-21-2003, 10:14 AM	#13
GaladrieloftheOlden Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Massachusetts - digging up a bottomless hole, searching for something that's not there... Posts: 1,514	I love LotR the way it is, but if I had to change something (though I don't see how that would happen), I agree that more about evil might be nice, or anotherpoem or two. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] ~Menelien __________________ "Glue... very powerful stuff."

05-27-2003, 12:05 PM	#14
Tarien Ithil Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: May 2003 Location: In the Shade of a Tree Posts: 253	To be honest, LOTR is perfect! (no flaws) as everyone has said before. Tolkien couldn't have done better! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ “The English-speaking world is divided into those who have read The Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit and those who are going to read them.” – Sunday Times Crickhollow

05-27-2003, 12:55 PM	#15
Noxomanus Wight Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Netherlands Posts: 233	More evil and more Radagast and Blue Wizards and I'd love Sauron to have corrupted some Elves or Huorns into his service.Imagine a forest of Huorns at the Black Gate, surrounding the Captains of the West!Or some Elves being set up as spies in Rivendell... The early chapters could have been made more entertaining as well. __________________ Nothing is evil in the beginning,even Sauron wasn't

05-27-2003, 04:49 PM	#16
Aule Wight Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hammering away in Valinor Posts: 126	Of course i love the books as they are....but...one thing i would like to know is more about the inner thoughts of Sauron, perhaps even his councils with the Nazgul or that ambassador. Although i suppose one of the things that made Sauron such a menacing figure was that we didn't know too much about what he was thinking or doing. OR A larger description of the Battle at the Morannonn when the ring was destroyed (it was the Morannon right?) __________________ For him that is pitiless, the deeds of pity are ever strange and beyond reckoning - of Melkor before his final downfall

05-27-2003, 05:28 PM	#17
GaladrieloftheOlden Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Massachusetts - digging up a bottomless hole, searching for something that's not there... Posts: 1,514	I, respectfully, don't think thethouhts of Sauron would be all that great. Because then we might be understanding the evil, which makes it far less mysterious and haunting. ~Menelien __________________ "Glue... very powerful stuff."

05-27-2003, 05:36 PM	#18
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	I wouldn't change the books one bit. I think Tolkien meant for some of the characters to be slightly mysterious and unexplained. Do we really want to know what happened to Alatar and Pallando? I do not deny that I have a lot of fun imagining what they did and the places they saw. I think a lot of people do. I would definitely leave the villains exactly the way they are. Somehow, giving a lot of information about his/her background ruins a villain (in my opinion). We are often scared by things that we do not understand, and we are meant to be frightened of Sauron and Morgoth. Tolkien wanted it that way. The Professor was so meticulous about each detail in his work that I think it would be an insult to him to change anything. I think changing the slightest thing would probably end up changing the entire book(s). __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.

05-27-2003, 05:43 PM	#19
Yavanna228 Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: May 2003 Location: on the wings of the morning Posts: 394	Right, Finwe. Changing even the slightest thing in the most obscure way could eventually make the books quite different than what they are today. Would that difference be for the better or for the worse? I can only speculate that it would be for the worse, because the way the dear Professor had meticulously written it is the way he wanted it, and ultimately I think the author knows what is best for his books, whether or not his audience accepts it. The books were good in his eyes, and they were one of the joys of his heart. Again, these are only my opinions, and they are meant in respect to all other opinions. Peace __________________ 'Dulaman na Binne Bui, Dulaman Gaelach/ Dulaman na farraige, 's e b'fhearr a bhi in Eirinn!'

05-28-2003, 03:22 PM	#20
greyhavener Wight Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: austin Posts: 169	I love this story just the way it is, but if it were mine, I might have provided more background on Aragorn, Gimli, Legolas and Elrond's previous involvement in fighting Mordor and include some events in the societies of elves, men, and dwarves that led up to the Council of Elrond. I'd try to streamline some of the extensive descriptive passages. A little more romance between Aragorn/Arwen and Faramir/Eowyn would be nice. I'd keep everything else pretty much the same. __________________ Do justly, love mercy, walk humbly with your God. Micah 6:8

05-31-2003, 06:56 AM	#21
peonydeepdelver Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Alas, I hail from Massachusetts Posts: 256	I wouldn't change the books at all, but I wish he had written a book all about random hobbitness. I loooove hobbits! It'd be like the Silmarillion for Halflings, and they'd have things like The Great Tookish Tater Famine and stuff. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] __________________ "Nazgul, Nazgul! You speak of what is deep beyond the reach of your muddy dreams, Ugluk! Nazgul! Ah! All that they make out! One day you'll wish that you had not said that. Ape! You ought to know that they're the apple of the Great Eye." ~Grishnakh

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