Does anyone have a map of valinor? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Morgoth Bauglir · 07-30-2002, 03:39 PM

thanks in adnvace

Ruthwen · 07-30-2002, 03:43 PM

There's a map of everything, including the Undying Lands, in A Tolkien Bestiary by David Day, and if my memory's correct then there's a sort of cross-section in The Book of Lost Tales Part 1. And possibly in The Shaping of Middle-earth, but I don't have that.

Fingolfin of the Noldor · 07-30-2002, 03:52 PM

The Shaping of Middle-earth has the most accurate and latest complete maps of Imbar(earth). A reproduction of the map I think you're looking for can be found here:

First Age

piosenniel · 07-30-2002, 05:58 PM

Nice map, Fingolfin.

Here is a link you can also use - the maps near the bottom show Valinor fairly clearly.

MAPS

arelendil · 07-31-2002, 03:37 AM

is there not a small one in the sil?

Aragost · 07-31-2002, 08:29 AM

I have a map in my copy of the aatlas of middle earth by Karen Wynn Fonstad

mystra · 07-31-2002, 08:37 AM

im gonna be real dumb here.

uh, valinor??????

Aldagrim Proudfoot · 07-31-2002, 08:38 AM

I have that book. It even shows the homes of the Valar.

amyrlis · 07-31-2002, 12:32 PM

For mystra:

Valinor - The Land of The Powers
(From the Encyclopedia of Arda)
'Land of the Valar'
The land founded by the Valar after Melkor's destruction of their ancient dwelling of Almaren. Originally part of the World, Valinor could be reached by ship from Middle-earth. After the rebellion of King Ar-Pharazôn of Númenor in 3319 (Second Age), Valinor and the lands of Aman were removed from the circles of the World, and could only be reached by the Elves, following the straight road that was kept open to them.

I could have come up with my own description of Valinor, but the Encyclopedia offers such a nice, concise one, that I felt it fine to use it. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] The events which take place in Valinor are detailed in The Silmarillion. Hope this answers your question mystra!

mystra · 07-31-2002, 02:57 PM

thanx! but i have said this many times-

I WILL NEVER READ THE SILMARILLION!!!!!!!

[img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

it answers my question, but leads to:

Melkor?????? Almaren???? Numenor????? huh???

[img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] one day i might read the sil [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Galorme · 07-31-2002, 03:32 PM

This may sound a little mean, but if you haven't read the Silmirilion maybe you should be talking in the Novice section. But then again i supose it is fun to explain things, especially to someone who doesn't know if you've got it right or not [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] . Numinor is where Aragorns people came from, it was an island deep in the ocian that was sunk by God after they tried to invade the land of the elves. Melkor is the Superbad guy who was Saurons master a long time ago. Almaren was where the Angels lived befor it was destroyed by Melkor, whereapon they moved to Valinor.

amyrlis · 07-31-2002, 04:32 PM

Mystra, I do wish that you get around to reading the Sil someday. I understand why you haven't, my sister is trying to right now, but is having a hard time getting into it. From some of your other posts it seems that you are very interested in swords. Gurthang, which I believe to be the most infamous of Tolkien's weapons, is featured in the story of Turin Turambar which is in the Sil. It would be a shame for you to miss that story as I think you'd enjoy reading about the 'Iron of Death'! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

07-30-2002, 03:39 PM	#1
Morgoth Bauglir Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 252	Does anyone have a map of valinor? thanks in adnvace

07-30-2002, 03:43 PM	#2
Ruthwen Animated Skeleton Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: England Posts: 40	There's a map of everything, including the Undying Lands, in A Tolkien Bestiary by David Day, and if my memory's correct then there's a sort of cross-section in The Book of Lost Tales Part 1. And possibly in The Shaping of Middle-earth, but I don't have that. __________________ "Her name was Nenlauriel, but they called her Rûthwen, because her anger seemed ever constant and ever flowing from her grey eyes."

07-30-2002, 03:52 PM	#3
Fingolfin of the Noldor Haunting Spirit Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NH Posts: 63	The Shaping of Middle-earth has the most accurate and latest complete maps of Imbar(earth). A reproduction of the map I think you're looking for can be found here: First Age __________________ Sailhand of the Mariners' Guild

07-30-2002, 05:58 PM	#4
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	Nice map, Fingolfin. Here is a link you can also use - the maps near the bottom show Valinor fairly clearly. MAPS __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.

07-31-2002, 03:37 AM	#5
arelendil Wight Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Eryn Lasgalen Posts: 202	is there not a small one in the sil? __________________ Nai Vardo eleni ilye lumenn' enomentielvo siluvar!

07-31-2002, 08:29 AM	#6
Aragost Wight Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Arthedain Posts: 137	I have a map in my copy of the aatlas of middle earth by Karen Wynn Fonstad __________________ Where there's a whip there's a will

07-31-2002, 08:37 AM	#7
mystra Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: cyber raga. nuff said. Posts: 88	im gonna be real dumb here. uh, valinor?????? __________________ "We each must choose our own path. mine had further to go." Cyber Raga. Nuff said.

07-31-2002, 08:38 AM	#8
Aldagrim Proudfoot Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hobbiton Posts: 328	I have that book. It even shows the homes of the Valar. __________________ I do not suffer from insanity. I enjoy every minute of it!

07-31-2002, 12:32 PM	#9
amyrlis Wight Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Helcaraxe Posts: 210	For mystra: Valinor - The Land of The Powers (From the Encyclopedia of Arda) 'Land of the Valar' The land founded by the Valar after Melkor's destruction of their ancient dwelling of Almaren. Originally part of the World, Valinor could be reached by ship from Middle-earth. After the rebellion of King Ar-Pharazôn of Númenor in 3319 (Second Age), Valinor and the lands of Aman were removed from the circles of the World, and could only be reached by the Elves, following the straight road that was kept open to them. I could have come up with my own description of Valinor, but the Encyclopedia offers such a nice, concise one, that I felt it fine to use it. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] The events which take place in Valinor are detailed in The Silmarillion. Hope this answers your question mystra! __________________ "Pull the blinders from my eyes, let me see these endless skies And drown here where I stand in the beauty of the land."

07-31-2002, 02:57 PM	#10
mystra Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: cyber raga. nuff said. Posts: 88	thanx! but i have said this many times- I WILL NEVER READ THE SILMARILLION!!!!!!! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] it answers my question, but leads to: Melkor?????? Almaren???? Numenor????? huh??? [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] one day i might read the sil [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] __________________ "We each must choose our own path. mine had further to go." Cyber Raga. Nuff said.

07-31-2002, 03:32 PM	#11
Galorme Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: London Posts: 337	This may sound a little mean, but if you haven't read the Silmirilion maybe you should be talking in the Novice section. But then again i supose it is fun to explain things, especially to someone who doesn't know if you've got it right or not [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] . Numinor is where Aragorns people came from, it was an island deep in the ocian that was sunk by God after they tried to invade the land of the elves. Melkor is the Superbad guy who was Saurons master a long time ago. Almaren was where the Angels lived befor it was destroyed by Melkor, whereapon they moved to Valinor. __________________ Utúlie'n aurë! Aiya Eldalië ar Atanatári, utúlie'n aurë! The day has come! Behold people of the Eldar and Fathers of Men, the day has come!

07-31-2002, 04:32 PM	#12
amyrlis Wight Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Helcaraxe Posts: 210	Mystra, I do wish that you get around to reading the Sil someday. I understand why you haven't, my sister is trying to right now, but is having a hard time getting into it. From some of your other posts it seems that you are very interested in swords. Gurthang, which I believe to be the most infamous of Tolkien's weapons, is featured in the story of Turin Turambar which is in the Sil. It would be a shame for you to miss that story as I think you'd enjoy reading about the 'Iron of Death'! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ "Pull the blinders from my eyes, let me see these endless skies And drown here where I stand in the beauty of the land."

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