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07-24-2018, 09:20 AM | #1 | |
Quentingolmo
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The New Shadow
This is the first draft of the work The New Shadow.
This work uses the text of The New Shadow given in HoME 12 as its base text. Because it is so short, and the final text was given in full, there is very little editing to do to update it for reading. The markings are: NS-SL-xx for all expansions and changes to the narrative. Some conventions of my writing: Bold Text = source information, comments and remarks {example} = text that should be deleted [example] = normalized text, normally only used for general changes, as well as changes which are a part of replacement that is not grammatical. Underlined Text = text changed for grammatical reasons in the process of combining and inserting and removing. <source example> = additions with source information ...... = This section of the paragraph is unchanged from the source. Quote:
NS-SL-02: This version was much longer and more detailed, so I thought we should give it instead. NS-SL-03: This was a simple grammatical change needed to keep the flow. This is the last draft for the entirety of Volume II, as well as for the continuous narrative history of Arda. It was very very straightforward to make a draft of it, and my gut tells me it was too easy, so I am sure Fin will have more comments about the story than I did. Last edited by ArcusCalion; 07-24-2018 at 05:28 PM. |
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07-24-2018, 02:54 PM | #2 | |||
King's Writer
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NS-SL-02: I agree to this edit, but I would keep one bit form the original text:
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07-24-2018, 03:14 PM | #3 | |
Quentingolmo
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NS-SL-02.5: Agreed.
As for the final paragraph, I agree that we should include it, but I would edit it differently: Quote:
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07-25-2018, 11:41 AM | #4 | |
King's Writer
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NS-SL-07: Okay ‘Satanistic’ might not be good, but I would rather look for Letter 338 for a replacement. Anyhow we should give as well the information that this story would mark the end of Eldarions regin:
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Original draft: ‘less than one hundered and twenty years since the fall of the Dark Tower’ => FA 108 => 8 years after Elessars Death Mansuscript A and B: ‘’Nearly one hundered and ten years had passed since the fall of the Dark Tower’ => FA 118 => 18 years after Elessars Death Letter 256 from 1964: ‘about 100 years after the Downfall‘ => FA 98 => 2 years before Elessars death Typoasscipt C1 is the same as A & B. => FA 118 => 2 years before Elessars Death Typosscript C2: ‘One hundred and five years had passed since the fall of the Dark Tower’ => FA 103 => 17 years before Elessars Death Letter 338 from 1972: ‘about 100 years after the death of Aragorn’ => FA 220 Up to the second edition of the LotR published in 1966 Aragorns death was in FA 100, then it was changed FA 120, That means we have to discard FA 98 and FA 103 as being to early since in both circumstances Elessar would still be alive. If we calculate rather with the death of Aragorn, then the Fall of Barad-dûr I would go with the 18 years and would place the conversation between Borlas and Saelon in FA 138. Borlas would then be about 148 years old. Which I find a good age for a retired Númenorean. And when we take Letter 338 serious that Eldarion regin up to FA 220, we would have a story line covering about 82 years. Long, but not impossible I think. But I think all that is too much specific and to introduce it would take to much liberty with the text. So I suppose we take an unspecific ‘Many years’ instead of any number. Respectfully Findegil |
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07-25-2018, 12:20 PM | #5 |
Quentingolmo
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Agreed to both, and nice layout of all the textual difficulties.
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02-09-2019, 10:37 AM | #6 | |||
Wight
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I agree with the ambiguous "Many years" instead of specifically dating the text, since Tolkien never seemed to come to a satisfactory date which makes sense. I only have a few comments:
1) I am currently taking "Intro to Anglo Saxon" from Signum University, so grammar has been on the brain lately. NS-SL-02.5 and NS-SL-03 do not form a complete sentence with subject and predicate; instead, it has a subject and then several dependent clauses. Quote:
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