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03-29-2008, 01:58 PM | #1 |
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Where is Aeglos?
I tried to find this out but came up emtpy.
Does anyone know for sure what happened to the spear of Gil-galad, Aeglos or Aiglos, after he died in battle at the hands of Sauron at the end of the Second Age? Thanks. |
03-29-2008, 02:11 PM | #2 |
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I believe there is not anywhere evidence to prove the fate of Aiglos for sure. The possibilities are - buried somewhere on the slopes of Mount Doom, or recovered and buried together with Gil-Galad, or even found by someone else and carried away (but I don't believe it to be like that, and I can already see the mad fanfiction ideas, but I don't think a spear so closely associated with Gil-Galad would be carried away by anyone else than the Elves themselves, and they would probably bury it with Gil-Galad - actually, what happened with Gil-Galad himself? - or they would hang it over the fireplace in Rivendell or something).
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03-29-2008, 02:52 PM | #3 |
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The elves bury their dead but somewhere it says that their physical bodies disintegrate swiftly - however the Dead Marshes are meant to contain the corpse of the slain from the battle though after so long it must have been some phantasm.
No doubt the elves would have made special arrangements for their leader's body if possible but I don't know if they would have buried him with his weapons - it seems unelvish. I must admit - and this is an impression rather than something I believe I could provide evidence for - that the fact that the ring was "as hot as a glede" when Isildur took it, suggested to me that Aeglos (and possibly also Gil-galad was more or less incinerated in the process of killing Sauron. Of course Narsil was merely broken but swords have special qualities in Middle Earth and are not usually largely constructed of wood. Also a spear would probably have been embedded in Sauron whereas a sword can be more of a slashing weapon. It is a theory, but I wouldn't bet the farm.
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03-29-2008, 04:21 PM | #4 |
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I would say that it probably ended up in rivendell or the grey havens as a relic of elven history
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03-29-2008, 05:40 PM | #6 |
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The Grey Havens was Gil-Galad's home, so that would be a logical place to keep Aiglos, or so I think.
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03-29-2008, 05:56 PM | #7 |
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The usual method of attack for a warrior with spear & shield (which are the arms we are told Gil-galad bore - no mention of a sword in the attack on Sauron btw) was to advance with the shield held forward to protect the body & the spear held over the top. I imagine G-g bearing down on Sauron & delivering the killing blow at a downward angle. Of course, he may have been part of a 'shield-wall' made up of a number of Elven warriors, which would have been the safest tactic - assuming there were enough of them around. I think that its most likely the spear head would have been destroyed, but the shaft would probably have survived. If so, I don't think it would have been left to rot - Elves were 'embalmers' & had a tendency to hoard stuff.....
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03-31-2008, 04:51 PM | #8 |
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The question of the horseriding is very interesting, however, in connecting to McCaber's statement:
I think that if Aeglos/Aiglos survived, Cirdan would have it. After all, he is known to keep precious things (even though he did give one away *cough*Gandalf*cough*) and stay behind for people. He is probably the most trustworthy elf, so naturally it would go to him. Plus, Gl-Galad came from there anyway.
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