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The Might · 03-27-2007, 04:04 PM

...you throw a Ringwraith right in the middle of the Sea?
I mean, they are invisible when unclad, but not in the way that matter can go through them, so they would probably sink...since I doubt they can swim judging by their fear of water
But they can't drown either, as seen after the huge flood of the Bruinen when they quickly returned to Mordor
So...would they lie around on the bottom of the Sea, or would they run around on the bottom of the Sea? I dunno, maybe you can help me out with this one

Morwen · 03-27-2007, 04:26 PM

But whatever Ringwraiths happen to be composed of, would it be so dense that they would remain at the bottom of the sea after being thrown in? (assuming of course that they can't swim) I would assume that if they were thrown into the sea/other body of water and Sauron were still around that they would remain open to his summons and in response they would float/drift to the surface of the water and find their way back to him in the way that they did after the Bruinen incident.

The Might · 03-27-2007, 04:35 PM

Hmm...why did I think they would sink in the first place...I wonder???

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 04-10-2007, 04:07 AM

I think a stormy sea would sweep them wherever it would, but I believe the wraiths, once they shed their garments, would be able to rise from the calm sea and travel through the air back to their master.

LjósÁlfr · 04-13-2007, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by The Might

Hmm...why did I think they would sink in the first place...I wonder???

Well, you'd have to be pretty damn light if you wanna float in the middle of a great sea. Heh, this (although it's off-topic) made me think of a discussion I had once with a friend, how would it be, if you were heavier then oxogyn, yet lighter then water (even in it's gass form).... If the Ringwraith were that... They could walk on clouds

... And they'd be able to climb over mist

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Well, It would seem rather weird to me if they floated, looking at it scientificly. But hey, Balrogs arn't possible if you look at science, why would the rightwraith's have to be? And even if they didn't float, they'd be summoned back by some wicked cunning of Sauron.....

And well, you might say: "What if it happened after Sauron?". If Sauron was overthrown, how much chance do you think a few humble Ringwraiths would have to still ride arround in Middle-Earth? Besides, the only way to overthrow Sauron is ditching that Ring, if the Ring is no more, neither are the Ringwraith's I think....

Mithalwen · 04-13-2007, 02:14 PM

Does a Nazgul weigh more or less than a duck?

And is the stormy sea made of custard..

We need to know these things ....

LjósÁlfr · 04-13-2007, 02:18 PM

He weighs more then a Duck, I mean, else he'd blow of his horse and his flying-dragon thingy

This means that, according to Monthy Python's view Nazgul's float and are witches.. BURN HIM!!!

03-27-2007, 04:04 PM	#1
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	What happens if... ...you throw a Ringwraith right in the middle of the Sea? I mean, they are invisible when unclad, but not in the way that matter can go through them, so they would probably sink...since I doubt they can swim judging by their fear of water But they can't drown either, as seen after the huge flood of the Bruinen when they quickly returned to Mordor So...would they lie around on the bottom of the Sea, or would they run around on the bottom of the Sea? I dunno, maybe you can help me out with this one __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

03-27-2007, 04:35 PM	#3
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	Hmm...why did I think they would sink in the first place...I wonder??? __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

04-10-2007, 04:07 AM	#4
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	I think a stormy sea would sweep them wherever it would, but I believe the wraiths, once they shed their garments, would be able to rise from the calm sea and travel through the air back to their master. __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

04-13-2007, 02:14 PM	#6
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,458	Monty Python and Braniac take on the ringwraiths Does a Nazgul weigh more or less than a duck? And is the stormy sea made of custard.. We need to know these things .... __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

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03-27-2007, 04:26 PM	#2
Morwen Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 274	But whatever Ringwraiths happen to be composed of, would it be so dense that they would remain at the bottom of the sea after being thrown in? (assuming of course that they can't swim) I would assume that if they were thrown into the sea/other body of water and Sauron were still around that they would remain open to his summons and in response they would float/drift to the surface of the water and find their way back to him in the way that they did after the Bruinen incident.

04-13-2007, 02:18 PM	#7
LjósÁlfr Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Sá er einn staðr þar, er kallaðr er Álfheimr. There is a place in the sky, that's called Elf Home. Posts: 23	He weighs more then a Duck, I mean, else he'd blow of his horse and his flying-dragon thingy This means that, according to Monthy Python's view Nazgul's float and are witches.. BURN HIM!!!