WW XXIX Dor-en-Gaur admin thread - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Nogrod · 01-22-2007, 01:07 PM

When Gorlim came back from the war he found his village plundered and forsaken and thence he fled to the companions of Barahir.

But what had happened to the village? Were his wife Eiliniel and other villagers slain, taken or just hiding somewhere Gorlim couldn't find out on his nightly tours around his earlier homestead?

We all know where those searchings lead into, but now we will be visiting the village and mold it's destiny.

There will be three wolves to kill the villagers by the order of Sauron.

There will be three rangers to defend the village.

There will be three additional characters that may benefit the village or the wolves, depending on their luck and judgement.

The village will probably have to make it out without a Seer. (This case I will have to study still a bit)

The players (updated version):
Durelin
Rikae
Thinlómien
Volo
Kath
Macalaure
Rune son of Bjarne
Boromir88
Mithalwen
Lalwendë
Farael
Naria
Anguirel
Mormegil
Celuien
Firefoot
Eomer
Gil-Galad
Roa_Aoife

A couple of more players would be great, and I might be even ready to go over the 18. It's a lot easier to come up with some additional things than to have a game with too few players...

I have taken some "dry rounds" with this concept and after four trials the tally is 2-2, all games making at least 6 Days and the most clear win being by the villagers where three of them survived. Looks good, I think. I will have to make a few trials with some non-randomness introduced to make it sure it's even enough.

To begin with I would say:
- no to double-lynchings, as there will be enough action without them
- yes to one retractable vote / Day as it grants a chance for those who are not sure to make it before the end of the Day to vote and makes the last minute voting much more interesting
- suggested deadline 9 or 10 PM GMT, the actual time by the "world clock" (I'll be putting a link in the actual game thread for it)

Feel free to voice your points of view on these questions, and others...

I will be sending more stuff on rules and the like as soon as I have time. The first narration to set the scene will also be coming forwards in a day or two.

Nogrod · 01-22-2007, 02:43 PM

Of those three at least yet undisclosed characters:

One of them would be new to this game. At least I haven't seen one like that before. The two others would be more familiar, but with a little twist. One of them might have some real influence on how the things turn out, another one would have her/his share over the fortunes of the village and with the third one everything would be a bit more subtle. My initial idea was and is that I would not disclose these roles to you before the game but that you might get some hints / revelations through the Nightly narrations about them.

Also trying to introduce a new character + three rangers, I felt I had to try those "dry rounds" just to make sure the game is in balance. Now it seems it is.

Are you ready to jump into the darkness with these or do you require that you know everything beforehand? As I said earlier, there will be no changing roles or new roles introduced in the middle of the game eg. everyone will be what they are from the beginning to their end. And you would be able to learn things from the narrations (even though that might mean some speculation).

Three added things I've thought:

- As long as there are three wolves they will have two kills / Night. As soon as one of them gets killed they will only have one kill / Night.
- The rangers will start not knowing the identities of each other. But due to certain circumstances they might learn each others identities and with good luck they might even earn the right to PM during the Days! (the last one would require some especially good luck or real cunning "teamplay" and daring by them)
- Of those three undisclosed ones two would basically be on the side of the villagers and one on the side of the wolves. They could all benefit the cause they are fighting for but they could also harm their cause. The one being on the wolves' side would not be counted as a wolf but as a villager in the last Days tally, but would win along with the wolves if they win.

What say you?

Farael · 01-22-2007, 09:26 PM

Where do I sign up?

If it's not here, then I'll delete this post, but count me in!

Naria · 01-22-2007, 10:22 PM

Sounds interesting Nog!! Pen me in.

PS: I will be voting early everyDay due to our lousy timezones

Volo · 01-22-2007, 11:12 PM

About the times: 21:00 GTM would be much better.

Nogrod · 01-23-2007, 01:58 AM

Nice to see you around Farael and Naria! I have added you to the playerlist in post #1 of this thread.

Nogrod · 01-26-2007, 02:56 PM

Quote:

The players (updated version):

Durelin - The Augur of the Village
Rikae - A Superstitious Mathematician
Thinlómien - An Ugly Little Shepherdess
Volo
Kath - A Weawer
Macalaure- Eiliniel's Witty Younger Brother Who's Always Right
Rune son of Bjarne - A Moonshiner
Boromir88 - The Serious Jester
Mithalwen - A Frivolous Serving-Wench
Lalwendë - Eiliniel, A Retired Village Idiot
Farael
Naria - A Town Page Girl
Anguirel - Gorlim's Lighthearted Brother, Anguirel the Merry
Mormegil
Celuien - The Innkeeper
Firefoot - A Homeless Waif
Eomer - A Beekeeper
Gil-Galad - A Confused Philosopher
Roa_Aoife - The Town Fletcher

That makes a total of 19 which tops my initial goal. This is looking very good indeed!

The sign up will close on Sunday midday GMT. So anyone wishing to still join will be taken in until that hour. After that I'm sending the roles & questionnaires.

The rules are now on the actual thread. If you wish to comment on them, please do it in this thread. The rules are subject to change if you have good points / generally applauded ones / you point to missing rules that should be cleared. The rules will be final at the moment Day1 begins.

Boromir88 · 01-26-2007, 03:28 PM

I think I'll be a 'serious jester.'

Lalwendë · 01-26-2007, 04:36 PM

I have to ask some dumb questions...

Do the werewolves know who each other is? I guess no?
Do the Rangers know who each other is? I guess yes? I've not played in one with Rangers.

You do not have to answer if my ignorance jeopardises plans.

Nogrod · 01-26-2007, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lalwendë

I have to ask some dumb questions...

Do the werewolves know who each other is? I guess no?
Do the Rangers know who each other is? I guess yes? I've not played in one with Rangers.

You do not have to answer if my ignorance jeopardises plans.

The werewolves know each other and may plan with PMs during the Night. The Rangers will not initially know each other, but it is one of the twists of this game that they have a chance of learning each others identities as the game goes on - and eventually earn even a right to PM each other. But the last option seems a pretty theoretical one... I think I commented on these in one of my first posts.

This much I can say, at this point.

Nogrod · 01-26-2007, 05:25 PM

Talking about occupations still.

I think it would also be perfectly legitimate "occupation" to be Eiliniel's neighbour or whatever related to her or Gorlim. And surely someone could be Eiliniel!

Although it would be sad to see her lynched or turn out to be a werewolf...

01-22-2007, 02:43 PM	#2
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	Of those three at least yet undisclosed characters: One of them would be new to this game. At least I haven't seen one like that before. The two others would be more familiar, but with a little twist. One of them might have some real influence on how the things turn out, another one would have her/his share over the fortunes of the village and with the third one everything would be a bit more subtle. My initial idea was and is that I would not disclose these roles to you before the game but that you might get some hints / revelations through the Nightly narrations about them. Also trying to introduce a new character + three rangers, I felt I had to try those "dry rounds" just to make sure the game is in balance. Now it seems it is. Are you ready to jump into the darkness with these or do you require that you know everything beforehand? As I said earlier, there will be no changing roles or new roles introduced in the middle of the game eg. everyone will be what they are from the beginning to their end. And you would be able to learn things from the narrations (even though that might mean some speculation). Three added things I've thought: - As long as there are three wolves they will have two kills / Night. As soon as one of them gets killed they will only have one kill / Night. - The rangers will start not knowing the identities of each other. But due to certain circumstances they might learn each others identities and with good luck they might even earn the right to PM during the Days! (the last one would require some especially good luck or real cunning "teamplay" and daring by them) - Of those three undisclosed ones two would basically be on the side of the villagers and one on the side of the wolves. They could all benefit the cause they are fighting for but they could also harm their cause. The one being on the wolves' side would not be counted as a wolf but as a villager in the last Days tally, but would win along with the wolves if they win. What say you? __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

01-22-2007, 09:26 PM	#3
Farael Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: In hospitals, call rooms and (rarely) my apartment. Posts: 1,538	Where do I sign up? If it's not here, then I'll delete this post, but count me in! __________________ I prepared Explosive Runes this morning.

01-22-2007, 10:22 PM	#4
Naria Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 500	Sounds interesting Nog!! Pen me in. PS: I will be voting early everyDay due to our lousy timezones __________________ MONEY Anyone who says it doesn't buy happiness.....is probably broke.

01-22-2007, 11:12 PM	#5
Volo Silver in My Silent Heart Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: the great beauty Posts: 1,611	About the times: 21:00 GTM would be much better. __________________ Fenris Wolf The EVEN NEWER Barrow-Downs Photo Page

01-23-2007, 01:58 AM	#6
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	Nice to see you around Farael and Naria! I have added you to the playerlist in post #1 of this thread. __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

01-22-2007, 01:07 PM	#1
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	WW XXIX Dor-en-Gaur admin thread When Gorlim came back from the war he found his village plundered and forsaken and thence he fled to the companions of Barahir. But what had happened to the village? Were his wife Eiliniel and other villagers slain, taken or just hiding somewhere Gorlim couldn't find out on his nightly tours around his earlier homestead? We all know where those searchings lead into, but now we will be visiting the village and mold it's destiny. There will be three wolves to kill the villagers by the order of Sauron. There will be three rangers to defend the village. There will be three additional characters that may benefit the village or the wolves, depending on their luck and judgement. The village will probably have to make it out without a Seer. (This case I will have to study still a bit) The players (updated version): Durelin Rikae Thinlómien Volo Kath Macalaure Rune son of Bjarne Boromir88 Mithalwen Lalwendë Farael Naria Anguirel Mormegil Celuien Firefoot Eomer Gil-Galad Roa_Aoife A couple of more players would be great, and I might be even ready to go over the 18. It's a lot easier to come up with some additional things than to have a game with too few players... I have taken some "dry rounds" with this concept and after four trials the tally is 2-2, all games making at least 6 Days and the most clear win being by the villagers where three of them survived. Looks good, I think. I will have to make a few trials with some non-randomness introduced to make it sure it's even enough. To begin with I would say: - no to double-lynchings, as there will be enough action without them - yes to one retractable vote / Day as it grants a chance for those who are not sure to make it before the end of the Day to vote and makes the last minute voting much more interesting - suggested deadline 9 or 10 PM GMT, the actual time by the "world clock" (I'll be putting a link in the actual game thread for it) Feel free to voice your points of view on these questions, and others... I will be sending more stuff on rules and the like as soon as I have time. The first narration to set the scene will also be coming forwards in a day or two. __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet... Last edited by Nogrod; 01-29-2007 at 01:51 AM.

01-26-2007, 03:28 PM	#8
Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,519	I think I'll be a 'serious jester.' __________________ Fenris Penguin

01-26-2007, 04:36 PM	#9
Lalwendë A Mere Boggart Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: under the bed Posts: 4,737	I have to ask some dumb questions... Do the werewolves know who each other is? I guess no? Do the Rangers know who each other is? I guess yes? I've not played in one with Rangers. You do not have to answer if my ignorance jeopardises plans. __________________ Gordon's alive!

01-26-2007, 05:25 PM	#11
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	Talking about occupations still. I think it would also be perfectly legitimate "occupation" to be Eiliniel's neighbour or whatever related to her or Gorlim. And surely someone could be Eiliniel! Although it would be sad to see her lynched or turn out to be a werewolf... __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

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