one thing to change them all - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

daeron · 12-20-2005, 07:17 AM

I know the answer to the following will be 'nothing' in most cases, but I just want to know.
If there was anything you'd like to change in the Lord of the Rings, Hobbit or Silm, (plotwise or characterwise) what would it be?

obloquy · 12-20-2005, 12:06 PM

I would take out whatever it is that appeals to teenage girls. =) =) =)

Bergil · 12-21-2005, 04:49 PM

I would remove either

Quote:

..and his shadow stretched out like two vast wings

or

Quote:

... and his wings were spread from wall to wall

clears things up a bit.

Legolas · 12-21-2005, 07:05 PM

And add

Quote:

He slapped Gandalf around a bit with his left wing.

AbercrombieOfRohan · 12-21-2005, 10:41 PM

Well, I would definitely change the fact that Middle-Earth doesn't actually exist, except in the hearts and minds of fans. 'Where now the horse and the rider?' indeed.

If only Tolkien had created a world that had spontaneously generated into completion and reality...

Tuor of Gondolin · 12-22-2005, 08:49 AM

I'd like to see alternate LOTR plotlines where the
Fellowship went west to the havens and then by
sea to south of the Angren, and one where they traveled
down River Running to the Sea of Rhun (to the
mountains and the forests around it).
The former would be especially interesting, and
you could still have Merry and Pippin captured,
the Fellowship splitting, etc. It would be
necessary to either relocate Lorien or work
it in some other way.

Edit: And Moria could be located in the White
Mountains.

Lalwendë · 12-22-2005, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by obloquy

I would take out whatever it is that appeals to teenage girls. =) =) =)

Would that be all the sword fighting and the wizards and the really cool dragons and the balrogs and the unnaturally large spiders and so on then?

Rune Son of Bjarne · 12-22-2005, 08:25 PM

I would add whatever it is that appeals to teenage girls.

I am guessing it would mean more: sword fighting, wizards, really cool dragons, balrogs, unnaturally large spiders and so on.

Suldaledhel · 12-23-2005, 02:14 AM

It has always been a desire of mine for Fingolfin to have borne witness to Feanor's death. After re-reading the passage recently, I have wondered if there was the potential for a final redemption for Feanor, having paid so great a price for his pride. Perhaps their grievances could have been set aside, or perhaps final words of bitterness could have been exchanged. Either way, that is the foremost aspect of the books I would change.

the guy who be short · 12-23-2005, 08:43 AM

The clear distinction between good and evil. At the age of thirteen, I more or less replanned the Lord of the Rings so that, just when Middle-Earth appeared as though it would collapse completely, the orcs would offer their arms to Gandalf and battle their oppresive leader. I'd give them a chance to repent.

12-20-2005, 07:17 AM	#1
daeron Animated Skeleton Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: india Posts: 35	one thing to change them all I know the answer to the following will be 'nothing' in most cases, but I just want to know. If there was anything you'd like to change in the Lord of the Rings, Hobbit or Silm, (plotwise or characterwise) what would it be? __________________ Half-brother in blood, full brother in heart will I be. Thou shalt lead and I will follow. May no new grief divide us.

12-22-2005, 08:49 AM	#6
Tuor of Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pennsylvania, WtR, passed Sarn Gebir: Above the rapids (1239 miles) BtR, passed Black Rider Stopping Place (31 miles) Posts: 1,548	I'd like to see alternate LOTR plotlines where the Fellowship went west to the havens and then by sea to south of the Angren, and one where they traveled down River Running to the Sea of Rhun (to the mountains and the forests around it). The former would be especially interesting, and you could still have Merry and Pippin captured, the Fellowship splitting, etc. It would be necessary to either relocate Lorien or work it in some other way. Edit: And Moria could be located in the White Mountains. __________________ Aure Entuluva!

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12-20-2005, 12:06 PM	#2
obloquy Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: WA Posts: 941	I would take out whatever it is that appeals to teenage girls. =) =) =)

12-21-2005, 10:41 PM	#5
AbercrombieOfRohan Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 311	Well, I would definitely change the fact that Middle-Earth doesn't actually exist, except in the hearts and minds of fans. 'Where now the horse and the rider?' indeed. If only Tolkien had created a world that had spontaneously generated into completion and reality...

12-23-2005, 02:14 AM	#9
Suldaledhel Eru's Gift Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Where pride pays silver and plays golden Posts: 215	It has always been a desire of mine for Fingolfin to have borne witness to Feanor's death. After re-reading the passage recently, I have wondered if there was the potential for a final redemption for Feanor, having paid so great a price for his pride. Perhaps their grievances could have been set aside, or perhaps final words of bitterness could have been exchanged. Either way, that is the foremost aspect of the books I would change.

12-23-2005, 08:43 AM	#10
the guy who be short Shadowed Prince Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Thulcandra Posts: 2,343	The clear distinction between good and evil. At the age of thirteen, I more or less replanned the Lord of the Rings so that, just when Middle-Earth appeared as though it would collapse completely, the orcs would offer their arms to Gandalf and battle their oppresive leader. I'd give them a chance to repent.