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03-06-2003, 06:54 AM | #1 |
Shadowed Prince
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thangorodrim= fang-mountain-people???
hail, fellow tolkienites
sorry, im insane... anyway my knowledge of sindarin is extremely limited, i am learning quenya, which i much prefer. but what does the name thangorodrim mean? i know orodrim was a name given to the ents, meaning mountain people. could thang be an early version of thanc in orthanc? fang? this would make so little sense that it makes me want to cry. [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] please, does anybody know what it means, im going mad here. wait, im already mad. never mind, just find out what it means, please. |
03-06-2003, 07:39 AM | #2 |
Haunting Spirit
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In the Second Phase of the Later Quenta Silmarillion published in HoMe X: Morgoth's Ring Tolkien gives the meaning 'the Mountains of Oppression'.
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03-06-2003, 08:29 AM | #3 |
Shadowed Prince
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could you please break up thangorodrim into the mountains of oppression? i know orod is mountain. whats oppresion and of?
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03-06-2003, 04:05 PM | #4 |
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Didn't Orthanc mean something in two separate languages? Because instead of fang, I'd assume it meant 'tower', as in the towers of oppresion, loosely translated. Also, the it could be 'than' with no g, and the g could come in gor, as in gorgor, which meant terror. As for the 'odrim', maybe it was a little personification, eh, the 'Towers of Terror' personified, but that's asking for a bit too much of a stretch.
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03-06-2003, 05:34 PM | #5 |
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If I remember correctly, Orthanc should mean something like "clever device" in old-english, but I can't remember what it meant in Elvish (it was something similar...). I've taken it from Unfinished Tales, but I can't find the exact quote...
[ March 06, 2003: Message edited by: Falagar ]
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03-07-2003, 01:56 AM | #6 |
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Thangorodrim: thang='oppression'
orod='mountain' rim='multitude, crowd', often a sign of collective plural (as in this case:mountains)
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03-07-2003, 01:59 PM | #7 |
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What language does that come from?[elvish, dwarven, etc.]
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03-07-2003, 02:04 PM | #8 |
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Sindarin. The language of the Sindar and later on the Noldor, though it wasn't widely spoken in Beleriand until the Dagor Aglareb.
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