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Old 09-12-2004, 04:42 PM   #1
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White Tree Dwarves of The Last Alliance

It is said that during The Last Alliance, Elves and Men united to fight evil. Although they were the main forces, Tolkien also states that there were beasts, and even dwarves, although their numbers were few. We know that the dead Elves, Men, and Orcs could found in the Dead Marshes, decaying under the water. My question is, what happened to the dwarves? Are they hidden in the marshes? Because of their height, do they decay faster? Did they all survive and go back to their halls? What is the fate of the dwarves! And for that matter, what is the fate of all those not of Elves or Men who participated in The Last Alliance?
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Old 09-12-2004, 09:53 PM   #2
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Those who survived the war went on a lived out their lives, whatever they happened to be.

The dwarves probably did not bury their dead in the marsh (or what eventually became the marsh). Since nothing is said about it one must assume that they found some way of interring the deceased in stone as was the usual custom.
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Old 09-13-2004, 12:12 AM   #3
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I agree with Kuruharan. They must have been dragged away by the surviving dwarves. And if they were buried on the battlefield, later Dead Marshes, they probably decayed just as everyone else. The "bodies" that lay there weren't real, remember?

As for the other creatures, they were probably eaten by birds or wolves or whatever hungry animals were nearby.
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Old 09-13-2004, 03:07 PM   #4
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Dwarves do lay their dead in stone or rock and not in earth. That would mean that Dwarves would be found in the dead marshes since they clearly were of muddy earth.
If to many dwrves were killed in a battle, so that they could not bury them in proper maner or take them away from the battle-field dwarves would bunr their dead. Thus I think after the war of the last aliance the Dwrves made a burning of their dead companions.

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Old 09-13-2004, 05:49 PM   #5
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I actually don't know about that.

The way it is described after the Battle of Azanulbizar, it sounds like something unique in their history.

We don't know exactly the relation of the battle lines to the mountains. It is possible that the Alliance was close enough to the mountains for the dwarves to follow their usual customs.

Of course, while Sauron's dwarves might not have been upset about the matter, the Longbeards might not have been too happy about burying their kin in the Mountains of Mordor.
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Old 09-17-2004, 07:59 PM   #6
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Dwarves may have simply not fought in the region where the marsh sprung up.
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Old 09-17-2004, 09:42 PM   #7
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There was probaly a morgue chamber in Khazad-Dum... though it was not enitrely sure where the dwarves fought, they probaly helped with the building and stuff, like when Osgiliath was beseiged, maybe some dwarves came down and started fortifying it? probaly under Elvish supervison...who knows?
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While you are probably right that the dwarves did a lot in siege warfare during the War of the Last Alliance, I doubt there was much in that area that the elves could teach them.
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Old 09-18-2004, 08:05 AM   #9
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well i was thinking of ideas cause there was no indication of dwarvish building-type things in Osgiliath, so i would think that they worked with elves and gondorian builders...
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