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Man-of-the-Wold · 11-02-2002, 02:21 PM

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Ah, to clarify is fun.

As for my assumption of Gildor and Turin, I only assume that Gildor is of such age that it is possibly that he fought at Tumhalad. As a noble in the House of Finarfin, it would be logical that he lived at Nargothrond rather than anywhere else at that point.

Also, as for the tra-la-la-lalling elves encountered by Bilbo and Dwarves, I only comment in contrast to those that would say that such bahavior is not consistent with later implications about the High Elves of Rivendell. I have always rejected this supposed contradiction, thinking only that at the time of Bilbo's first arrival there, there was none of the very dire business afoot that defines the War of Rings, and that merry, seeming frivolous activity is not foreign to any elf (high or low) at any time, as that they are never really grim like Men are often described, but only serious and terrible when they need to be for reasons of war.

Rather, it is perhaps one of the faults of Feanor, that he takes life and "possessions," so seriously, in an non-elf-like way.

But, I am only trying to offer ways to understand the context of Gildor's situation, in that at that time, he like most elves of Eriador (exceptions being the Council members), are concerned rather exclusively with their own daily affairs and amusement, and that this is not so much a matter of choice, but of their continual alienation from the ways and lands of Mortals.

11-02-2002, 02:21 PM	#15
Man-of-the-Wold Wight Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: With Tux, dread poodle of Pinnath Galin Posts: 239	[img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Ah, to clarify is fun. As for my assumption of Gildor and Turin, I only assume that Gildor is of such age that it is possibly that he fought at Tumhalad. As a noble in the House of Finarfin, it would be logical that he lived at Nargothrond rather than anywhere else at that point. Also, as for the tra-la-la-lalling elves encountered by Bilbo and Dwarves, I only comment in contrast to those that would say that such bahavior is not consistent with later implications about the High Elves of Rivendell. I have always rejected this supposed contradiction, thinking only that at the time of Bilbo's first arrival there, there was none of the very dire business afoot that defines the War of Rings, and that merry, seeming frivolous activity is not foreign to any elf (high or low) at any time, as that they are never really grim like Men are often described, but only serious and terrible when they need to be for reasons of war. Rather, it is perhaps one of the faults of Feanor, that he takes life and "possessions," so seriously, in an non-elf-like way. But, I am only trying to offer ways to understand the context of Gildor's situation, in that at that time, he like most elves of Eriador (exceptions being the Council members), are concerned rather exclusively with their own daily affairs and amusement, and that this is not so much a matter of choice, but of their continual alienation from the ways and lands of Mortals. __________________ The hoes unrecked in the fields were flung, __ and fallen ladders in the long grass lay __ of the lush orchards; every tree there turned __ its tangled head and eyed them secretly, __ and the ears listened of the nodding grasses; __ though noontide glowed on land and leaf, __ their limbs were chilled.