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Old 09-19-2008, 11:21 AM   #527
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Well that's kind of shocking.

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I appreciated it when Boro took a look at him, but voting him based on that is over the top.~Mac
Who do you think I am Mac? I knew it was a thow-away vote, and I knew McCaber was in no way going to get lynched. This is a game about "evidence," but evidence can be manipulated. So, like Fea said this is a game also about reactions as much as anything else, and reactions can be twisted/taken the wrong way. Hence why I use a healthy dose of both. I knew McCaber wouldn't be lynched, and Nogrod said the exact reasons why, as much as I could argue McCaber looks guilty, the exact opposite argument could be made. So, why did I throw away my vote? To cause a stir and host of reactions of course.

Don't really need to say this, because Nogrod is innocent, but he reacted exactly as I expected:
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It really seems looking back at the things that he has been a bit too right - and I can see if you will be upset by this claim if you happen to be an innocent who just got it so right this time McCaber! But that's really a performance a bit too good to be true!

Anyway... I'm not sure I'd wish to lynch him toDay. I mean even if the case looks nice there are probably stronger reasons not to believe it (would McCaber want to be left alone against 10 villagers with seer & ranger around?). But it is good the points on McCaber were made for if he is indeed the wolf he can't now ride with the free ticket of extra-credibility anymore in the end did things go that far...
For whatever it's worth Mac, you reacted as I expected. For you, I was watching whether you would latch on to my suspicions, but you didnt. Both you and Nerwen raised reasonable questions to consider and thus decided I was a cobbler or some kind of crazy man.

Fea's reaction was nothing surprising. She still has an unquenchable obsession to find out my role (by lynching me), so she can be sure. I don't get it, she always thinks the worst of me, and seems to take too much joy into thinking I'm a bold-faced liar who is pulling off the most unbelievable bluff imaginable.

Mith did follow on with my vote, but that also isn't suprising, since the argument I used was straight from Mith's motto as a wolf - "Don't look like you're so certain about everything."

I don't think I heard anything out of Izzy about it, just that she thinks McCaber's probably innocent. Were you trying to stay out of it Izzy, or did you just think I'm an insane whack-job and thus didn't pay heed to it?

And as I said I don't like McCaber's retaliation vote.

Here is where I can explain myself a little better. It really isn't about what Rikae said, who she voted for at all, well it is but that's not the crux of the argument. That was kind of my last minute ramblings as I was in a hurry to leave, from my lunch break. I noticed Rikae voted for McCaber on Day 2, and Sally on Day 3, after Sally is lynched Rikae ends up dead. Thus I saw an interesting connection that perhaps the wolves believed Rikae was the seer, and if McCaber was already under he suspicions (though Rikae wasn't sure), and McCaber's a wolf, just like they did with Brinn...maybe he wanted to get to Rikae before she found out for sure.

But, that's not the crux of my argument, the real pie to it all is McCaber's post 451 yesterday. Where he tries to force the fact that both him and Mac are proven innocents finally (that is not true):
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So are we finally clear that Mac and Iare innocent? Good.
And his hastiness to turn towards the 5 "suspicious" people and kill them...after all that should be easy right? Because their voting record obviously isn't as clean as McCaber's:
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And I figure that between the mob killings and the seer dreams we can kill/exonerate the five (or so) SPs (suspicious persons) remaining without much difficulty. I hope it doesn't come to that, though.
It was then when I turned back to look at just how squeaky clean his record has been. Voting for wolves all 3 days, and his feelings that Gwath and Nogrod were innocent (both true). His feeling that I was innocent, but when I turned up the pressure I suddenly became the cobbler (you were right the former there McCaber).

Call it luck, but I don't think anyone's record is that spotless unless they know too much information. I mean you've nabbed two wolves Mac, that is very good, but you have been wrong about me, Brin, and others in this game. I was right on Lal, but I was horribly wrong about CoD. I'm sorry McCaber's been a little too good to be lucky.
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