[Nogrod]

I had started to make some general remarks and trying to find fex. why I find Ang and Meneltarbo worrysome - and I try to come up with them somewhat later - but this just calls for some comments.

I'll only comment a few that I think need clarification - and through which I can make some general points. The rest I find just too far-fetched or insignificant to take up (and I don't want to make an essay of this and use the whole night [RL] on it).

Either we read English very differently Kathin (which is possible as this is not my native language anyhow), or then you're making a good job trying to twist and intentionally misread most of what I've said... I have not yet forgotten my suspicion of you.

About halves the village, suspecting those who had barely posted and thinking those who had posted more innocent.

I think I never said I thought them more innocent.

Originally Posted by Bofgrod

From what has passed this far - and it's early, no question about it - I would say that I would be highly reluctant to help with the lynching of Nori88, Dwalin Dwancing Spawn of Fundin, Durin the Deathless or Voloin as they have actually been playing the game with some openness. And looking at the latest, I should include our lord Thorin Anguirelshield to my list as he seemed to start making points.

And this is a point of major difference. If we have people like Nori88, Spawn etc. in the game, why to lynch them on Day1 based on some pretty random accusations (as it normally, not everytime, goes)? What a loss to the village! If you're a wolf you would be very happy to get rid of outstanding players on Day1 randomness, surely.

And here I would also disagree with Ang's a bit too far-taken suspicion on Voloin's point about leaving myself and Nori to the Seer. I have other reasons to be a bit alarmed with Voloin as I stated yesterDay, but this I find only reasonable. Why kill the players who actually contribute a lot so long as we have a Seer to check them? I have been a bit laid back with Nori88 yesterDay and toDay as I wait for our Seer to come forwards one Day or another. Meanwhile we can concentrate on others just to make it sure we don't lynch a valuable villager ourselves. (Still three wolves left, so even if Nori is a wolf there are two others to catch - surely, if there would be a good reason to suspect Nori I would be the first to vote him, but this far I haven't seen one, at least big enough to take the risk) I hope this answers also to your point on #73 - and to be hones, have you seen a Seer who waits to collect all the three wolves until s/he reveals the knowledge? C'mon! Your comment smelled a wolf a hundred yards as I know you're an intelligent and an experienced player...

Originally Posted by Kathin

Post 63: Argues with Eomer saying that analysis is good on Day 1 as it heightens the chance of catching a wolf. Yes it does, but if a wolf is orchestrating the analysis it can lower the chance, and it was Nogrod who tried to move everyone away from the in-character stuff.

I have not denied anyone else to do analysis - I don't have any mandate to require others not to analyse. Please! Is trying to move people away from pure in-character bantering a wolvish act? Really? Kathin, are you slipping again? From the villagers point of view getting rid of nonsense is good, from the wolves point of view it isn't.

Originally Posted by Kathin

Post 88: Asks if anyone is willing to help lynch Eomer. It's so blatant, he wants Eomer dead. Would a wolf be that bold?

No. Or should I say "that stupid"? I've said this before but if you don't read what I say, I say it again. Why on earth would a wolf risk that to get a certain innocent killed instead of another innocent (Glóanna was innocent too - but how about you?)? I mean, had it been Roa_Aoife or someone like her as another one and another innocent, then a wolf might have thought it important enough to take the risk of getting rid of exactly her, but really...

Originally Posted by Kathin

Post 96: Not sure what he's advising people to do, it almost looks like he's trying either to save Eomer or to get a double lynch. What were you up to Nogrod?

Look again. I tried to remind that they should not lynch Dori or Spawn (who had 2 votes both) by leaving it even on 2 votes. Read the situation and you see it. So trying to twist things again now aren't you.

I mean that was the most cunningly wrong-read analysis I've ever seen (I only commented on the ones I thought were bad enough). Put on a time when she thought I would not be online anymore, now was it? Trying to maintain the suspicion on me with no fear of myself correcting the things or asking people to look at it themselves?

Sorry Kathin, you top my list still... and I do hope now that you're not a misguided innocent. But innocents admit their mistakes and turn the other way to actually help the village which side they're on. I have been insecure with you and a few times I have thought whether I should drop my suspicions. But after this one, I just can't.

Look at all the people who have been quick to back Kathin's zero-points. There I'm afraid, you will find one wolf more.

PS. I was already thinking that I shouldn't mave made this post as it's a bit over-reacting to points that have no merit and thence should not be even reacted, but as I now see how Meneltarbo has been swayed, I must say I needed to made it. But was there a need to sway Meneltarbo?

PS.2 Goddammit! Let me do some actual wolf-hunting for a while! 2.40AM here and I'm off to sleep. I'm sorry, the wolves swayed this Day over me and I was weak as I thougt I should defend to gain one more Day. Remember this later...