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Old 10-10-2006, 03:38 PM   #80
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Okay, The final ones...

Rikae: Her first post seems dubious enough. It looks like it is a newcomer wishing to make an impression or a very cunning Thing clothing herself as a witty newbie. I understand the suspicions that post has raised. I can't agree with all the wisdom she poured over us there and indeed disagree with a couple of points she made there. But that shouldn't be the problem here. We have different histories and Rikae's points looked like ones coming from someone who has more read than actually participated in these games.

Then Lommy started suspecting her manner of presenting her points. At this point I have to agree with Lommy - and later Mac. The way Rikae made her points as obvious were far from it (as the later discussion showed they weren't).

I can't see why many of you were suspicious of Mac's post #12. He was making a lot of sense there, correcting the simplified points made by Rikae.

Then there is the usual banter between people on the first Day. Between Lommy and Mac I see it as quite innocent, both trying to make a point with not much to go with as so few had posted by then.

Many of you have said that Mac has attacked Rikae and carefully been defending his own not to be definitive in his accusations - so playing it safely. I agree. He has done some suspicious things as suspecting her and then relieving her at the same time.

With Rikae's post #24 I'm really baffled. I think I would like to think her as an innocent trying her best but there still is something that bothers me. Many of her deductions run contrary to what I deduct from the points in question. But mostly they seem sincere enough. But if I take account of her later posts - with actually some substance to relate to - she seems to be more reasonable by every post...

Lommy's arguments before she voted were good enough but there was an air of unsincerity. (This is feeling based) Her vote on Rikae looks bad compared with her statements that she really was downgrading her suspicion on her all the time... I know she had to part early (she has no net-connection at home), but still it was not the most convincing vote I've seen.

All the things going on between Lommy and Mac are also worthwhile to notice. As Rikae said:
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Mac - I have some slight suspicion because of the information he gave to contradict my original points, which didn't seem particularly accurate and seemed designed to generate suspicion toward me rather than to shed light on the situation, at such an early point in the game that he could not have known my status unless he was a thing or the seer, and I doubt the seer would choose to dream about a rookie (of course,I know if he was the Seer he wouldn't be casting doubt on me, but you don't know that!). It is, however, entirely possible he was only offering the other perspective to make us aware of all possibilities. I'm reserving judgement for now. Still, his seeming mock-suspicion toward Lommy also raised warning signals for me.
Lommy - Argued with Mac, but never suspected him, and voted for me while claiming she thought I was innocent. On the one hand, this resembles the "innocent voting randomly without intending to actually lynch that person" scenario I had previously described - on the other hand, doing what has just been described as innocent behavior is rather thingish in itself. I also have a gut feeling that she and Mac have some sort of understanding, and that is, of course, suspicious.
The inter-connection of Lommy and Mac looks suspicious. I agree with it. But is Rikae here the neutral or innocent observer either? This drives me crazy!

After these things, Mac has been making more sense and sounding more true. It could be that the very starting debate was there because there was nothing else to discuss and only a few people were around to write anything? And same holds for Rikae. She too has gotten much more reasonable as the Day has passed on. So are we indeed suspecting them solely on the grounds that they were online early and had nothing else to go for but the posts of each other of them? If so, the real Things will be laughing quietly in their dark corners...

So do these things tell us anything? Not likely... But I would still like to remind you of my first post: many times it is the innocents who go after one another and ensure the lynching of an innocent by that... They might all three be innocents. Careful Things would avoid that kind of publicity!

I will have to take another look to these before I go.

And surely I have some earlier suspicions in my mind, mostly on Jenny, but we'll see to it.

(OOC: I will vote soon and go to sleep but as I'm a bit worried about my operation I might not get to sleep so easily and thence might come back with a new vote if the situation has changed markedly)
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